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This is an in-depth look at how Jesus and the early Christian Church accepted Same-Sex Loving Relationships and Same-Sex Sex within the context of a committed relationship.

I hope that his helps some of you reconcile your Christian Faith with your Homosexuality or Bisexuality. For others it will act as a handy guide to COUNTER Homophobic Christians who use Scriptures as a weapon against us.


Please note that you need to check with any specific church you wish to attend, since individual congregations may not be welcoming to you.

Churches that Perform Gay Marriages, Ordain Gay Ministers, and teach that Homosexual Sex, within the confines of a Gay Marriage or Committed and Loving Relationship, IS NOT A SIN:
    The Metropolitan Community Church [MCC] (Gay Church)
    The Episcopal Church (The United Church of Christ)
    The Evangelical Lutheran Church
    Presbyterian Church
    The Unitarian Church
    The Unitarian Universalists
    Unity School of Christianity
    Community of Christ
    Evangelical Anglican Church In America
    Reconciling Pentecostals International
    The National Catholic Church of America
    Catholic Apostolic Church in North America
    United Catholic Church
    Orthodox-Catholic Church
    Evangelical Catholic Church
    Reformed Catholic Church
    Christ Catholic Church
    Ecumenical Catholic Communion
    Liberal Catholic Church
    Independent Catholic Christian Church
    Independent Greek Orthodox Church of the United States (Greek Orthodox)
    Moravian Church
    United Church of Canada: Affirming Churches Only (Not Covenanting Churches)
The following are as above or at least welcoming, but based on a Church-by-Church basis, as set by the Congregation:
    Lutheran Churches
    Quaker (Religious Society of Friends)
    Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
    [Very few Baptists churches are welcoming to Sexual Minorities, but some are. Go here to find welcoming Baptists churches.
    United Methodist Church [Some Methodist churches are welcoming to Sexual Minorities. Go here to find welcoming Methodist churches.
WARNING: There are many so called "Gay Friendly" Christian and Catholic Churches around who invite you in, then preach to you that you live in Sin.

In this paper, I often present multiple approaches and argument for passage in question. For example, translators have use the word Homosexual when no such word even existed when the scriptures were written. Translators of many modern printings have inserted words that are designed to inflame hatred.

Despite new correct translations, Bible publishers are under strong economic pressures to turn a profit. If a translation of lets say Leviticus 18:22 were included that did not generally condemn at least male homosexual behavior, their sales would drop precipitously. They are unlikely to deviate from traditional interpretations, unless they were preparing a translation specifically for Christian and Jewish liberals.

WORDS CAN KILL GBLT KIDS. There are Christians whose words drive GBLT CHILDREN TO THEIR DEATHS IN VERY LARGE NUMBERS. It may seem that the Christian Fundamentalists are harmless, but the poison and lies they spread do great, great harm. Since many of these Fundamentalist Christians believe that their Bigotry and Discrimination is Justified by the Bible, they could care less if they drive children to suicide. After all they are doing "God's Work."

PLEASE NOTE: I wrote this paper to help people, not to generate religious arguments, debate or hate attacks. This is not the proper Forum for that. If you do not agree with this paper that is your right, as it is your right to state that. However, I will not engage in counter arguments because the only thing homosexuals ever hear are the constant litany of lies of conservative fundamentalist Christians. No more such is needed here. Any attacking or Hate-based comments will be HIDDEN.

Please note that I am not a Christian, nor of any other religious faith. I do not believe in a God you would recognize, nor in a Heaven or Hell, but I am a Spiritual man in my own way.  I choose to be a good person without the threat of a hell nor the reward of a heaven. I do so because it is the right thing to do.  I have studied Christian Theology over the years, as well as comparative theology.

Matthew Barry ©2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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MeltedEyes Featured By Owner May 10, 2014
I'd like to see an in-depth study about how the BIBLE "accepts": lying, gossip, murdering, and worshiping idols, please.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner May 12, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
The tone and the wording of your comment, along with its lack of contextual reference to my paper, appears to me to be just another Hate Attack and not worthy of further response.  If you continue to comment in this way, I will ban you from my site.
Libertades Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
One last curious question: what's so different about incest then?
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Hi,  I'm not sure what you are asking about, or what the context of the question is (What is incest different from?). However, until you get back to me, I can talk a bit about incest in general and see if that answers your question.

The vast majority of incest that that has taken place in human history is heterosexual incest between father & daughter, brother and sister, and mother and son.

The reasons why we are taught that INCEST is wrong are:

:bulletgreen: Any children produced through incest causes genetic inbreeding, causing a higher rate of genetic defects and anomalies, such as hemophilia.

:bulletblue: Sexual relationships between adult and child family members are almost always EXPLOITIVE in nature and damaging to the child. In other words, the older person is typically taking advantage of the younger person.  It is seldom a matter of equal attraction and desire—it is a matter of one person USING the other person for their own sexual gratification. Also, younger teens have not yet developed an association between Love and Sex, and having an adult family member being sexual with a teen can cause serious problems later in life for that child. 

:bulletyellow: A child needs to have adult love authority figures who give the child security, safety, trust, and unconditional love. If you insert sex into the mix, it breaks that fundamental parental connection. Psychologically that parent is no longer able to offer unconditional love, safety, security, trust and advice to the child. The child may have no one to go to, to deal with the many emotions and problems that come with being sexually active.

INCEST & HOMOSEXUALITY:  Homosexual incest is much less common (father/son, mother/daughter, brother/brother, sister/sister) than heterosexual incest. Homosexual Incest will not produce any offering, so there is no worry about genetic problems. However, when parents are involved, you get the same problems and damage that are mentioned above for heterosexual incest.  But what about homosexual incest between siblings? This could be exploitive in nature, especially if the younger sibling is too young for sex, too young to understand enough to make such decisions about sexuality, or if one of the siblings is simply using the other for sex.

MY OPINION: Setting aside questions of Society and Religious Morality, incest Involving Kids Could Be Ok When ALL of The Following Are True:

:bulletorange: It is Homosexual sex (no offspring will be produced).

:bulletpink: The relationship is same sex Siblings or Cousins (like two brothers or two sisters).

:bulletred: One is not forcing, coercing, manipulating, exploiting, intimidating, or unduly influencing the other.

:bulletpurple: They are within about 4 years of age, and one is not less than 15 years old, or they are within 3 years of age, and one is not less than 14 years old.
Libertades Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand, but how come people can say being homosexual is right and incest is wrong then? What does the bible say about it? Because people could open up an argument with this.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
First of all, there is a lot of incest in the Bible. Examples include the sons/daughters of Adam and Eve (Genesis 4), Abraham marrying his half-sister Sarah (Genesis 20:12), Lot and his daughters (Genesis 19), Moses’ father Amram who married his aunt Jochebed (Exodus 6:20), and David’s son Amnon with his half-sister Tamar (2 Samuel 13).  It is It is undeniable that God allowed incest in the early centuries of humanity.  By definition, if you start with only Adam and Eve, you will have many generations of incest.  Then God seems to command against incest in (Leviticus 18:6-18).  Note that Leviticus actually says, “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord."  It is then widely assumed that, "Uncovering nakedness" means having sex.

Homosexuality and incest are completely different things.  Homosexuality is inborn—homosexuals are born that way, while incest is a choice and is a sexual act.  Homosexuality is a Sexual Orientation and Incest is a sexual act.   Homosexuality describes the sexual orientation of the brain, the way the brain is programmed for sexual attraction, sexual desire, and how to respond to pheromones. Incest is typically predatory, using, and exploiting those too young to choose for themselves, too young to understand fully what is going on, or unable to defend themselves. Int he vast majority of cases, iciest is RAPE, both legally and morally. In the vast majority of cases, incest has a victim, and that victim is damaged by the experience, especially if it is multiple times and long-term.  Please note that I do not use the word 'always,' as there are some exceptions (like same-sex siblings close enough in age and both old enough to choose what they want).

The very conservative traditional interpretation of scripture is that homosexuality is a choice, but science has proven this interpretation to be completely FALSE.  Many ignorant Christians might try to refute the science, just as they do in other ways, but all it proves is that they choose to be ignorant.  Homosexuality is NOT a choice—you are born that way—God made homosexuals—homosexuality is part of God's plan.

Christians who link homosexuality with incest, pedophilia (sex with prepubescent children), bestiality (sex with animals), sexual perversions, insanity, etc, are BIGOTS in the worst way.  In fact, science shows that the vast majority people who practice incest, pedophilia, bestiality and other sexual perversions are actually HETEROSEXUAL (Straight) people. These Christians make these claims without any biblical evidence and without any scientific evidence.  Science and the empirical evidence of human history prove that these Christians are wrong.  They are deliberately lying to inflame hatred.

Therefore, any person who tried to link incest with homosexuality, biblically, is not only wrong, but probably hate-based and dishonest. 

I hope this helps.  Let me know if you more questions or if you have specific bible examples to talk about.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you, it is appreciated.
Libertades Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a better explanation, but now, I knew once of a case of incest where both of them were in true love, it wasn't forced, is that right when it comes to that? Or is it impossible to be in love with your family members?
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
The short answer is yes, there can be romantic love in some family relationships, and it can be Ok (in my opinion) under some circumstances. Those circumstances need a close look, because most adult/minor child incestuous relationships are damaging, and heterosexual incest is extremely risky for possible pregnancy and possible genetic birth defects, because no birth control is full-proof.  

I give a very condensed 'Conclusion' at the end of this comment that sums up the answer to your questions.

Additionally, as I will explain further down this comment, there is an important question about if it is really true Romantic Love, or something less healthy or exploitive that is disguised as romantic love?  Therefore, the answer to your question is far more complicated.  You did not mention if it was a parental relationship or other kind family relationship, therefore I have to cover them separately:

ADULT/CHILD INCEST WHEN ONE IS AN UNDERAGE CHILD (Parents, Uncles, Aunts, Adult Cousins, etc.):

Sex is really not the most important part of a romantic relationship. I can tell you that if I fell in love with an under-age boy (blood relative or not), and he fell in love with me, I would delay sex until he was of legal age. If you truly love someone, you do what is most healthy for that person, otherwise the sex is selfish and exploitive, and this is very likely not true love. The same would be true of any adult family member and any child below the age of 18 (or whatever their State's
Age of Consent is).  I have been a counselor for around 24 years now and I can tell you with certainty that the vast majority of sexual relationships involving an adult and a child (up to around age 17) is very damaging to that child later in life, if not immediately.  The younger the child the more damaging it is.  When the adult is also a parent, it is far more psychologically damaging. I frankly find it hard to justify any sexual relationship between a parent and an underage child.  It would take a while to explain all of the various ways that it is damaging, but if you are interested, I can go deeper into it.  


If the parent and child are both adults and mature enough to understand the ramifications and consequences of an incestuous relationship, then it should be Ok.  However, is it really true romantic Love, or something very unhealthy?  They would need to figure this out.


Absolutely Yes, it is possible and does happen.  The reason why society makes sexual/romantic relationships between adults and teens illegal is because the vast majority of these relationships are exploitive in nature, with the adult's love being fake, or delusional, or manipulated.  These exploitive relationships cause great damage to the young people, especially to the younger they are. There are so many male predators out there (and far fewer female predators) that society had to protect young people from them.  Unfortunately, it also makes healthy Adult/Youth relationships illegal, but if the love is real and true, then sex can wait until he or she is of legal.


There are other things disguised as Romantic Love.  For example, codependent need can feel a lot like romantic love. I was in a relationship that turned out to be based more in codependent need (for both of us) than in love, although it sure felt like romantic love in the first years.  A child or young adult with low self-esteem and feeling generally unloved can be very vulnerable to adults to exploit.  It is very difficult for children and young adults to recognize unhealthy love from healthy love.  Also, keep in mind that many pedophiles and predators of children claim to love the children they molest and rape. In their minds it is love, but it is far from it.  The victims are manipulated into thinking they are very loved, and they return that love.  For the adult, it is only their sexual desire coupled with delusional fantasy.  Take a child who feels unloved and who has low self-esteem, and add to that an adult expressing undying love and sexual praise and desire and extra-special attention, and to the child it can feel like romantic love.  When a parent is involved, it can further confuse things by mixing in parent/child love.  This can later mess-up the person's ability to realize a healthy romantic love and relationship.

For vulnerable youth, a sexual relationship with an adult can make them feel special and loved, and they return that love. An example is a 13-year-old boy who got no attention or love at home, then had a man show great interest in him, lavished him with compliments, attention, praise, gifts and what felt like love. The man knew exactly what to say and how to say it.  Then the boy was manipulated into a sexual situation, with photos taken. He was then blackmailed for more sex (threat to send photos to parents), then sex with other people, then internet sex, until he tried to kill himself, which is when I entered the picture.  When kids find out that the adult never truly loved them and only wanted the sex, it can be psychologically devastating and negatively affect them for many years. 


The danger of pregnancy is very real, and the resulting possible genetic birth defects is very real.   Birth control can be used, but none of it is full-proof.  Even vasectomies can sometimes heal themselves. Condoms can break or leak, and the pill is not 100%.  Using MULTIPLE BIRTH CONTROL METHODS AT THE SAME TIME is a possible solution, like using condoms, birth control pill and diaphragm, etc.  They should also talk about if they are willing to use a "Morning-after Pill" if there is a condom break, and also talk about if they are willing to abort a pregnancy, if it happens.  It is better to consider such things before becoming sexual.

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As I said two comments ago, I believe that Homosexual Incest between siblings or cousins, where one is not forcing, coercing, manipulating, exploiting, intimidating, or unduly influencing the other, and when they are about 14 or older, and within 3 to 4 years of age, I think it can be Ok.  They still have to figure out if the Love is a true Romantic Love, or a mix of Sibling Love, Need, Lust, etc.  Time will usually tell, but at least it should not be more harmful than other young relationships, other than having to keep it secret, feelings of guilt and shame, dealing with societies taboo view of incest, etc. 


The biggest danger here is pregnancy and the resulting possible genetic birth defects. Using MULTIPLE BIRTH CONTROL METHODS AT THE SAME TIME is a possible solution. Otherwise, the same concerns apply as I have described above.


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Pheromone Sexual Attraction is only one of a number of sexual attractions to come into play.  It is possible to form a Romantic/Sexual relationship with someone you are not chemically attracted to, but chemistry can add a another level of heat and passion to the equation.

Each of us will be sexually attracted to people who possess a particular set of genes, known as the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC), which plays a critical role in the ability to fight pathogens. Mates with dissimilar MHC genes produce healthier offspring with broad immune systems. Evolution has therefore made us sexually attracted to people with a different MHC, because it produces a healthier human genome and helps the human race survive. The way we sniff-out mates of a different MHC is through our sexual PHEROMONES.  These Pheromones are excreted into our sweat and other people can smell your pheromones up to 50 feet away, or more if there is a breeze.

Close blood relatives are going to have very similar MHCs.  Therefore, incest relies on other types of attraction, such as how the person looks, personality, already having a loving bond, timber of voice, etc.


For me, any sexual relationship between a parent and an underage child is unhealthy and damaging to the child in the long-run, and is NOT OK.  If the love is true, they can wait until the child is an adult.

For me, any sexual relationship between an adult and a child requires great scrutiny.  If the child is under age 16 (or later if developmentally behind), any sexual relationship with an adult is NOT Ok.  Again, if it is true love, they wait until he or she is an adult before engaging in sex.  There are other forms of non-sexual intimacy that can be used.

For me, any incestuous relationship between adults is Ok, as long as exploitation, control and manipulation are not being used.

For me, any Heterosexual incest is too dangerous, unless they use multiple birth control methods at the same time to greatly reduce risk of pregnancy.  They should also talk about if they are willing to use a "Morning-after Pill" if there is a condom break, and also talk about if they are willing to abort a pregnancy, if it happens.   It is better to consider such things before becoming sexual.

For me, Homosexual incest between Siblings or Cousins is Ok , as long as one of them is not forcing, coercing, manipulating, exploiting, intimidating, or unduly influencing the other, and when they are about 14 or older, and within 3 to 4 years of age.  They still have to figure out if the Love is a true Romantic Love, or a mix of Sibling Love, Need, Lust, etc.

IN ALL CASES, I feel it is important anyone involved in incest works to figure out if they have a true Romantic Love, or if there are other factors involved.  It is often difficult, in the best of circumstances, to know if your love is true and healthy.  It took me 34 years to figure it out.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE IN LOVE WITH A FAMILY MEMBER: Yes, it is, but it is a very tangled web to sort out the different loves, feeling and emotions to know if it is a healthy Love or not, if it will be unhealthy, damaging or destructive to the younger person, OR if it be healthy and constructive to the young person.

All Romantic Love must include Mutual Respect, often putting the needs of your lover before your own, and helping each other to grow and develop individually.  If the older person is controlling the younger one, manipulating younger one, or exploiting the younger one in any way, then it is very unhealthy and probably destructive to the younger one.  Once a life is badly physiologically damaged, you do not see full recoveries.  We learn to live with it and how to not let it rob us of happiness and enjoyment of life.  The things that happen to us as children are programmed very deep and permanently. 

Finally, Children are precious and vulnerable. If an adult must sacrifice his or her desires to help a child reach his or her full potential of happiness and containment, then the adult is morally bound to make that sacrifice.  I recently worked with a young man who is attracted to both adults and pre-pubescent children (pedophilia), but he made a moral choice to NEVER ever act on it.  He cannot do anything about his in-born desires, but he can choice to not act on them. 

I have also known an adult man who met a 15-year-old boy and they fell in love.  They waited to have sex until he turned 17 (legal age of consent in their state). Just being in a romantic relationship, without sex, would probably have been considered illegal (Contributing to the delinquency of a child)  , but in my observation the relationship was very healthy for the boy, giving him a best friend, a mentor and a tutor, and someone who loved and desired him for more than his body and sex.  the adult man had no problem waiting for 2 years and would have waited longer if necessary, because there is so much more to Romantic love than sex.

I hope this is helpful.  If you want to get much more specific about the people you knew, you can send me a DA Note, which is private. 
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