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This is the first of two parts on STONEWALL. It documents the systematic Torture of Homosexuals in the 1950s through the 1970's to the Present.

Homosexual men and women were rendered mentally disabled through the torture of Lobotomies, Electroshock Treatments, Forced Chemical Treatments, Castration, Aversion Therapy, and Experimental Treatments, and this was happening all over the world.

It was all basically a continuation of Tortures used by the Nazis in their attempts to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals in the Concentration Camps.

Aversion therapy is still used today and was used on children as young as 4 years-old. Even today kids are forced into caps or facilities designed to convert them from homosexual to to Straight, despite massive evidence that it has never worked, and subjecting children to Aversion therapy that often ends in Deep depression, decades of psychological problems, and too often, Suicide.

These practices help to build the levels of rage and anger that FUELED THE RIOTS OF STONEWALL, and triggered the LGBTQ MOVEMENT, which now thrives and continues to fight to overcome homophobia and fight for EQUAL RIGHTS.

It is my hope that you will WATCH the EMBEDDED MOVIE and read some of the HISTORY of the LGBTQ Movement.
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FiremanHippie Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2016  Student General Artist
I cannot believe that people would do those kind of CYNCAIC things to these people. I'm not Gay, but I feel for them. People need to learn to let go of their "perception" of how things should or should not be..That's NOT our purpose in life.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
I agree. It is especially bad justifying atrocities with their God. Torture and murder is the opposite of the teachings of both Jesus and Mohamed.  Some people have a cruel nature and a need to feel power over others.
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FiremanHippie Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2016  Student General Artist
Yeah, that's how it is nowadays...it's embarrassing if anything in my opinion.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, it is even more embarrassing when you see the same bigotry and behavior here in the United States.  Trump is a huge embarrassment all over the world, and he seems to bring the bigots out in droves.  The rest of the world is asking, "What the f…" (edited for potential fragile ears).  I talk to people from around the world and get an ear-full.  I used to get the same thing when Bush was elected a second time.  We lost a lot of respect then, and we are losing more now.  If Trump wins, maybe the rest of the world gives-up on us, lol.  In a Democracy or Republic, a government of the people, the majority get what they deserve.  Alas, the minority get what they don't deserve.

Social Justice vs Greed & Selfishness swing like a pendulum in history.  We are at a peek of Greed & Selfishness at this time in history, but hopefully in your lifetime, it will swing towards Social Justice, when the majority care more about each other than just their own greed and selfishness.   When Social and Economic Inequality gets too high, with the wealth of the mega-rich gets too high and the poor get far too poor, and little remains of the middle class, you finally see the will of enough people overcome their laziness to speak-out, eventually getting politicians to enact change. We last saw this after the Great Depression.
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FiremanHippie Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2016  Student General Artist
I agree with you there, and on that note of the Great Depression always remember this "those that fail in life..are DOOMED to repeat it" (think on that) :meditation:
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Alas, human history is nothing but a continuous repeat of of the same stupid stuff.  It is due to human nature itself. 

Basic Genetic Human nature, left on its own, and found in many different varying degrees, is based foremost in:
    :bulletred: Greed
    :bulletred:  Sexual drive
    :bulletred:  A desire for power and to feel Superior to others, which includes the desire to Dominate others, Subjugate others, Impose your will over others, and Control over others
    :bulletred:  FEAR
    :bulletred:  Believing that you are fundamentally better than others
Along with Ignorance, the last three are the Roots of BIGOTRY.

These can be part of Human Nature too, but are also learned:
    :bulletred:  Cruelty
    :bulletred:  Revenge & Retribution
    :bulletred:  Jealousy
    :bulletred:  Arrogance
On the GOOD side, we are also genetically programmed to be SOCIAL Beings, but also seeking Individual Identity.  This includes:
    :bulletgreen: Cooperating with Others Towards Common Goals
      :bulletgreen: Some people are born with a nature that is biased towards being more social and more cooperative, while others are born biased more towards being less social and more towards individuality and independence.
      :bulletgreen: Some are born with a more gentle nature and some with a more aggressive nature.
    :bulletgreen:  Mate-Bonding
    :bulletgreen:  Kindness
    :bulletgreen:  Self-Sacrifice
    :bulletgreen:  Empathy (to varying degrees) which can lead to Compassion
:bulletgreen:  GOODNESS requires active CHOICE, which is driven by COMPASSION, or in some, FEAR of a Hell and the REWARD of a Heaven. Our Parents and others can make a very big impact on teaching children good values, empathy, compassion, caring about others, being a giving person, etc.  Some children can be raised in a very good environment and turn out to have bad values and no empathy, or be raised in a very morally bad environment, and turn out with excellent values and empathy. Therefore, immediate environment does not fully determine a persons values and degree of empathy.  The greatest human power of all is our Power of Choice.
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FiremanHippie Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016  Student General Artist
Amen to that! It all comes down to choice. And we can only pray that people will have the right motives...but hey. Lesbians are marriage legal so there's that.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
As a boy, I wanted to be a priest and help people. Weeks after turning 13, our priest told us altar boys, "Boys who are physically attracted to boys are 'abominations' in the eyes of God, doomed to burn for an eternity in the everlasting fires of Gahanna." A couple of weeks later my faith shattered and I tried to kill myself. A man grabbed my feet as I was going over the top of a fence on a Freeway overpass.  It may seems off that someone who does not believe in Gods studied religions so much.  I know far more about Christianity, Christian history, Christian archeology and biblical history than the vast majority of Christians.  What I discovered, when studying the work of scholars in Coptic Greek, Judaea culture at the time of Jesus, other researchers and the etymology of Coptic Greek words, in which the original New Testament was written, was egregious mistranslations in Paul, purporting that homosexuality is a sin (such as in Romans and Corinthians), and how Jesus never once said anything against it, as witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  Anyway, I wrote two papers on Homosexuality and the Bible that I posted on my DA page.

I find it sad that throughout history, some people have taken the words of Jesus and Mohamed, distorted them to their own purposes, and caused extreme suffering in the world. The vast majorities of atrocities again humanity have been committed by Christians and Muslims, all in the name of God.  It is not the words of scriptures to blame, it is those who abuse the words to their own purposes who are to blame.  Some do it with evil intent, while some do it believing they are doing it because they believe they know what is best for everyone else.

But then you mist ask, how much blame should be put on the masses of sheep (most people) who follow without thinking things through, without examining their conscious?  The Catholic and later Protestant churches very much discouraged education, and it was forbidden to translate, copy or print any bible that was not in Latin.  If people read the bible, then looked at all of the rules of their church, and how the church was run, they would see that often church doctrine was in direct conflict with the teachings of Jesus. Interestingly, even after people could read the bible, they still do not seem to recognize these conflicts.

After the second invasion of Iraq, 2006, the Catholic Church commissioned a PEW survey about how Americans felt about the torture of other human, broken down by religion. They found:
    72% of American Catholics Approve of Torture
    65% of American White Protestants & Evangelicals Approve of Torture
    63% of the Total American Public Approves of Torture
    51% of American Seculars Approve of Torture
My question is this, how could anyone read the words of Jesus, just as his Two Great Commandments (Matthew 22), Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5) and Sermon on the Plain (Luke 6), the cornerstones of Christianity, and possibly believe that they can justify torture? All you have to do is ask a simple question, would Jesus torture people, for any reason?  Is it not interesting that the Americans who do not even believe in Gods appear to be more moral in at least this regard?

In conclusion, most people do what they  want to do, then justify it to themselves. If you hunt around a bit, you can take many phrases out of context in the bible to justify anything. Slavery was justified in Christianity from Roman times through the Civil War times. The US Supreme court rules that black people are not actually human, and therefore not covered under the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Paul was quoted often to justify slavery.

Please note that when I talk about Christians and Muslims, I do not want them all tighter and assume anything about all of them.  Each person has their own spirituality (even when you do not believe in Gods) and beliefs, even when the consider themselves affiliated with a given religion. There are many very good people in all religions, and some very bad people in all religions.  I look at historical trends and behaviors of religious groups as a whole, without attributing anything to individuals.

Fuel for thought…

Sorry, this is probably far more than you wanted to hear.  I got carried away.
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Fansick-Originals Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think it's wonderful that you're working to show people how deeply homosexuals have been hurt throughout history. It needs to be more public that such crimes are not recent but have been happening for years and years. 
Keep up the awesome work in making more people become aware of this~! :highfive: 
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
You are most welcome.  Homosexuality was generally accepted in the world, and in some places seen as something special, up until the Christian church started to become widespread. Mohamed took the same stance as the Christian church.  Thereafter, almost all atrocities against homosexuals, in all of the history of mankind, took place at the hands of Christians and Muslims.  In the Christian church, the worse stated taking place around AD1000 when the Italian ascetic Peter Damian reinterpreted the story of Sodom & Gomorrah (Genesis 19), as referring to a Homosexual sin.  The Sodom & Gomorra had never been interpreted this way before and hinged on one word, 'KNOW,' when the people of Sodom said the wanted to 'know' the angels.  No where else in the old testament is the word 'know' interpreted in a sexual way.

The early Christian church adopted pagan holidays such as Christmas and Easter, all trying to recruit pagans into the new church.  But at about the AD1000 point, pagans were a small minority and now the focus was more on wiping them out.  Homosexuality was seen as a very pagan thing.

It was modern man, of the 20th century that institutionalized the torture of homosexuals.
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Fansick-Originals Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It saddens me when I think about all the damage Christians have done because they decide to play God and create a world where people fear one another. 
I'm a Christian myself and it never made any sense to me. I wish that the people of the Church would just stay out of other people's lives and focus on the issues that do need people involved: school shootings, rape, enslavement....
Personally I don't see anything wrong with two people being in love regardless of what gender they are. 
I've made multiple arguments against people who try to use the Bible to justify their mistreatment. While they could easily take things from the Bible and twist them around or take them too literally, I think there's more to it. I'm currently working on a paper of sorts (personal project) that creates an argument using history and sociological terminology.
I have to admit, I may need to use some of the writings on your page for reference as it's so well done!  
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
I don’t lump all Christians together.  There are Christian churches like Episcopal Unitarian and many more who do not see homosexual sex as sin, when in the confines of a Gay marriage or loving committed long-term relationship.  Some of these churches will even do Gay Weddings. Christian theology does not approve of any sex outside of marriage.  In many areas around the world, Gay marriage is impossible/illegal, so we (Sexual Minorities) see loving committed long-term relationships as the equivalent of Marriage, especially when vows are given.

Churches and religions are made up of people, and people are very fallible.  Some Christians follow the 'spirit' of the teachings of Jesus and try to live as Christ-like as possible (such as the Two Great Commandments, Sermon on the Mount, Sermon on the Plains), while other manipulate words to suit themselves. Some people use religion as a weapon, or as a way of controlling people, or way to be bigoted in a righteous way.  In my experience, most homophobic Christians see homosexuals based on the objectified label.  In other words, if a person is homosexual, he or she must be a sexual deviant, sinner, child molester, untrustworthy, evil, alcoholics and drug addicts, diseased, etc.  Other Christians are truly wonderful people who strive to make the world a better place, who truly believe in compassion and love towards their fellow mankind.

When I moved into a conservative neighborhood with my prior partner, the neighbors were so upset that they held a neighborhood meeting to talk about how to get rid of the queers, how to protect their children, and about how their property values would drop. A kindly neighbor warned us what was happening. Our response was to go next door and invite them to dinner the next evening, and being polite and good Christians, they said yes.  It turned out to be a very good evening, and they helped coax another set of neighbors to come to dinner at out place another night. We ended up hosting a lot of dinners.  I also jumped in to help when I saw neighbors doing home projects, landscaping, putting up fences, etc.

In the end, once they saw us as ‘Human Beings’ who were very much like them, their attitudes completely changed.  They included us in neighborhood things and in their own lives. We actually ended up babysitting a few times, which showed high trust.  We helped a bunch of the local kids build a treehouse.  There was just one household across the street from us who kept shouting homophobic slurs as us, but they ended up selling their house and moving, since the other neighbors expressed disapproval of their behavior.

When you study the original Christian gospels and even Paul, all written in Coptic Greek, nowhere does it say that homosexuality or homosexual sex, in of itself, is a sin.

In Matthew Mark, Luke and John, the eyewitnesses to the words of Jesus, there is not a single word or even hint that Jesus ever said anything negative about homosexuals or even homosexual sex.

In Paul, such as Romand and Corinthians, the interpretation of same-sex sex or homosexuality all hinges on a word-pair in Coptic Greek.  When the bible was translated from Coptic Greek to Latin, the church interpreted this word pair being about homosexual sex, yet this word-pair is not used this way ‘anywhere’ else in Coptic Greek writings. The word pair has a different meaning.

If you have an interest in delving into this deeper, I wrote two papers, both PDFs with hot linked Table of Contents, along with a third short PDF about Sodom and Gomorrah,which you might find helpful:
New Testament + Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity New Testament + Homosexuality
Old Testament + Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity Old Testament + Homosexuality
SODOM DESTROYED ON 6-29-3129BC
SODOM & GOMORRAH DESTROYED BY ASTEROID ON 6-29-3129 BCE
Sodom and Gomorra were two ancient Early-Bronze-Age cities in a fertile region of the Middle East, near the Dead Sea.  The time is shortly before dawn on 6-29-3129 BCE, and 600 miles (966 Km) from Sodom & Gomorrah, there are two Samarian Astronomers observing the skies.  They observed a fiery body traveling across the night sky.  They inscribed its path and it relative course and position against the stars on a clay disk, called a Planisphere.  Dr. Hempsall and Alan Bond deciphered the clay disk and used computers to recreate the night sky thousands of years ago. They pinpointed the sighting of the ancient astronomers to shortly before dawn on June 29 in the year 3123 B.C.
The asteroid, which was about 1.25 Km (0.78 Miles) in diameter, exploded above the ground with a force of a 10,000 megaton nuclear weapon (100 times more powerful than any nuclear weapon on earth). 
SODOM DESTROYED ON 6-29-3129BC


The best of luck with your project, and feel free to use my writings if they are of help.  The bigger papers have bibliographies for various sources materials.
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Fansick-Originals Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
As far as labels and generalizing homosexuals, while the most vocal seem to be Christians, it is a trend in just about every country on some level or another. People seem to take being gay as the worst possible thing to be.
John Wayne Gayce, for example, when first arrested insisted he was bisexual and not gay. As if that made some difference in the amount of terror he caused and the lives he destroyed. 
I had come across some of the educational films made in the 50s that have been posted online and one in particular was alarming. It was discussing stranger danger and how young boys need to be aware of pedophiles. Save for the didn't call them pedophiles but homosexuals with the title being something along the lines of 'beware of homosexuals' or some other nonsense. It just goes to show how so many were brainwashed into thinking something was bad due to mislabels and misinformation. People just seem more comfortable passing judgement rather than seeking enlightenment. 
The Sermon on the Mound was always something that spoke to me about the Christian faith. The message of love that was preached is constantly repeated but still so easily forgotten in a society that allows such things as what recently happened in Orlando to take place. It's something I try to remember than try to remind people of.  
While I wish my own family would be more accepting of homosexuality, I am grateful that while they aren't comfortable with it, they aren't going to openly discriminate or pass judgement because they know they have no right to. The exact words being "it's not a hill worth dying on". It's a start. 
The neighbors you had sound like they at least opened up some to being tolerant since you and your former partner met them halfway. I must say I admire the courage it must have taken to put yourself out there and give them an opportunity to get to know you rather than a title. You should consider talking to people who have such difficulties in their own home setting. I bet you could help build a lot of people's confidence. 
My paper will take some time to get just right to form every argument and cover every angle, but I will be sure to read your work in order to gain some knowledge and perspective. Your writing is very well thought out and so detailed it makes the topics an easy and in-depth read. 
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2016  Professional Digital Artist

Thank you for you positive feedback about my writings.

It is true that some Christians are not alone in homophobia, but in general, the vast majority of homophobia in the last 2000 years has been at the hands of Christians and Muslims, with some from the Jewish faith as well.  Some Buddhists and Hindus are homophobic, but in my experience, it is the exception and not the rule.

I have also seen some of the films from the 50s and 60s, and I was in fact shown one of them when I was in Middle school.  I had no idea what they were talking about, so it went right over my head.  It showed a boy hitchhiking and picked up by a man in a car, then showing them picnicking I think, then being arrested and led up the stairs to a court building.

Mike Wallace, of 60 Minutes, did a piece on the danger of homosexuals to society and their mental disease, pedophilia, etc.  You can find this online if you Google for it.

All the best,

Matthew

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ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015
Oh god...this is horrible.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
YES is it terrible, and it is still being down in places around the world.  Also, homophobia, especially Christian and Islamic homophobia is driving hundreds of thousand of children to suicide each year, using guilt, shame, bullying and ostracism to cause misery. In Iran, they hung two boys fro being Gay. IRAN EXECUTES 2 GAY TEENAGERS by inspiredcreativity IRAN EXECUTES 2 GAY TEENAGERS
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ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015
One comment: D:
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topazlights Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2015
Sad that one must carry the weight of ridicule because you are different. One big thing is we are all from one and part of that one being your self.
 
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Some people believe that any atrocity can be justified in the name of God, and if you are different then that also justifies any atrocity.
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Sunao17 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
I can't get it, why some people care about who you sleep with? WHYYY!!!!
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Two default aspects of Human Nature are, unless trained out of you in youth, are:

• A desire for power and to feel Superior to others, which includes the desire to Dominate others, Subjugate others, Impose your will over others, and Control over others.

• Believing that you are fundamentally better than others
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sampea Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
.....HOLY SHIT...That's all I have to say...Stupid cursed humanity...
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I grew up when much of this was still happening (1950s, 1960s, 1970s).  I went into the Merchant Marine (supertanker ships) where discovery of being Gay meant death, being thrown over the side of the ship to drown. The vast majority of humanity felt that you were, "Better off dead than Queer."  It was a crime to be Gay.

Somehow, in the Christian, Jewish and Muslim traditions (not all of them, but the greater majority), if they label you as evil, they can do as many inhumane things to you as they want to, all in the name of their God.  The fault is no so much in the theology as it in the people.  Often, when people decide to do things they know to be wrong, they amply find a way to justify.

Even today, in the USA alone, EVERY YEAR, about 640,000 Sexual Minority youth, as young as 12 years old, go onto the street, and 39% of those were thrown out of their homes after “Coming Out” or discovery of their homosexuality or bisexuality, because of conflicts with moral and religious values. The vast majority of those parents are Christians.

In America, Half (50%) of ALL boys who attempt or succeed in killing themselves, are Gay or Bisexual.  If you include girls, 30% of ALL CHILDREN who attempt or succeed in killing themselves, are Gay, Bisexual, Lesbian, or Transgendered. 85% of ALL Sexual Minority Youth have thought seriously about committing suicide (73% in a 2004 study). A gay, bisexual, lesbian, transgender and/or questioning youth commits suicide every five hours and 48 minutes.

50% of gay males experienced a negative parental reaction when they came out.

More than 30% of lesbian and gay people have suffered physical violence at the hands of a family member.

Sexual Minority Youth were more likely to report symptoms of a major depressive episode than heterosexual youth, with gay males significantly more likely to meet the criteria for a major depressive episode than heterosexual males (42.1% compared to 24.4%). GBLT adolescents were also more likely to have posttraumatic stress disorder.

Once kids end up on the streets, kids face violence, rape, sexual exploitation, disease, untreated HIV, alcoholism, drug addiction, suicide and exposure, leading to a Death Rate among street kids that is 11 times higher than that of other children5,000 kids die on the streets of America each year, for an average of 13 Kids dying every day on American Streets.

In conclusion, there is still a very long way to go to reduce the inhumanity facing Sexual Minority youth, just in America alone, let alone the rest of the world.  Our greatest hope is always in the youth of each generation, to end the inhumanity, the hate, intolerance and vilification of Sexual Minorities.
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sampea Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
Poor them...
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missmdanielle Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014
i want to use this in my English Essay but not sure how to cite it.. where did this come from? help!!!!
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Hi, I can supply you references below:

A reminder that if you want to play the video on page one, you must download the the PDF document to your computer.  Apparently DA no longer allows the playing of embedded videos in PDFs.

Also, the link I had for YouTube source for the video on Page one is now dead.  If you find any other dead links, please let me know.

I highly recommend renting or buying the DVD STONEWALL UPRISING www.amazon.com/American-Experi… $13.49 by PBS. I used it as a reference in a few places. It is a valuable reference for anyone interested in Gay History.

LGBT History: The Decade of Lobotomies, Castration and Institutions: www.davidmixner.com/2010/07/lg… including Atascadero State Hospital in California, dubbed the Homosexual Dachau death camp.

A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility: www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens…

AVERSION THERAPY TO CURE HOMOSEXUALITY:
www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009…
www.mhamic.org/treatment/avers…
www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rig… Man Killed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion…

BYU Gay Electro Shock Torture: www.salamandersociety.com/sexu…

Electric shock aversion therapy device: www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/… &  www.boxturtlebulletin.com/btb/…

Video: Mike Wallace - "The Homosexuals" (1967, Recap Version) (homophobic): www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AXAOT…
Video: BOYS BEWARE! Anti-Gay Lecture to Kids www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehsg2U…
Video: Homosexuality - An Educational Movie (Homophobic ) www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQheSO…

The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment: Experimental therapy to cure feminine behavior in boys, leading to widespread suicides.
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-irAT…
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_AeCU…
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 3 www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI6-g5…
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 4 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufejiT…

Video: Does Exodus sanction forcing kids into exgay programs? www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QvorE…

Lance Carrol (16) Survives Refuge, an ex-gay ministry survivor: fightinghomophobia.blogspot.co…
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ThePanicLegend Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014  Student
No one can know what god wants or thinks, he never came down and told anyone now did he? Religion is cancer, it's made to control others, not to help people but to forbid them certain ways to live. It sorta leads to a closed mind in my opinion, if a book and your society tells you about something, and you don't spend one second on thinking if you actually should do that... mmmmhh that's weak, and not to forget gay marriage is allowed in only countries with low religious influence, so is getting rid of religion making us more accepting? Still sorta strange we renew our chemistry books all the time, we find out more about it, more detailed, or maybe completetely different facts and no one wants to get teached things that were accurate 50 years ago. But they still follow that 2000 year old book to the death. gg humans.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Your comment is very well said, but I would add something to it.  Most people both need and demand to be controlled by religion. Even worse, they demand to be controlled in great detail.  In Christianity, Jesus gave people just 2 Commandments to follow: Love god and love your neighbor.  Obviously, if you love your neighbor you will not steal, rape, murder, cheat them, etc.  But this is not good enough for most people.  They demand to be told exactly what they can and cannot do, in great detail.  But they miss the point.  You can follow your religion's rules to the letter, even give money to charity, and still get to 'heaven.' Jesus told them that they must "Love their neighbor." Spirituality is about your own personal beliefs, while Religion is like an exclusive club with thousands of rules.  Religion and churches are made up of people, and each religion is based on what people wanted at that time.  Religion can be a tremendous crutch to lean on when you are suffering. 

If I wanted to label myself, I would call myself a Humanist.  I choose to be a good man out of my own desire to be good, not because of the threat of a hell or the promise of a heaven, nor from a belief in a god or gods.  I personally do not believe in Gods, but I respect most people who do.  Did you know that we can create the God experience in your brain by energizing an electromagnet over your 'Front Right Temporal Lobe' of your brain?  This mimics what happens when we are under great stress (mental, emotional, physical or spiritual stress), grief, anxiety, and/or fear, OR at times of deep reflection (such as during meditation). When this area is stimulated, people experience vivid visions involving a comforting presence outside of themselves, typically accompanied by a visual manifestation in the upper visual sphere. 

In the entire history of mankind, Christianity and Islam account for the vast majority of homophobia and crimes against Sexual Minorities.  Before Christianity, homosexuality was actually seen a good and special thing in aboriginal tribes in the Americas, Australian continent, Island communities and so on.  Shamans, Medicine men/women, seers, tribal teachers tribal negotiators were typically homosexual.  American native peoples referred to us as Two-Spirits, we were the bridge between the male and female spirits.

The vast Persian empire, the Greek empire and the Roman Empire all treated homosexual sex as part of normal sexuality.  In ancient times, they did not see people as homosexual or heterosexual, it was only a matter of who you chose to have sex with. Did you know that the Sacred Band of Thebes, the most famous army of the Greeks, was made up of homosexual couples?  The entire army was made up of male lovers.  Plato sleeks of the advantages of having an army of male lovers, for who could turn and run in cowardice in front of their lover?

TRANSLATING THE BIBLE
This may be a shock to you, but the original Christian New Testament (Bible), written in Coptic Greek, does NOT say anything bad about homosexual sex.  It is the TRANSLATORS of the bible who say homosexuality is a sin. Many books have been written on this and I have written about it as well.  Translators have taken a word-pair (two words used together) to mean homosexual sex, but this is not at all what those words mean in Coptic Greek.  Everything you hear about homosexuality being a sin is a LIE.  Further, in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the eyewitnesses of the words of Jesus, there is not one word, not one hint of Jesus ever saying anything bad about homosexual sex.  Therefore, any Christian telling you that homosexual sex is a sin, is wrong.  There are now a number of Christian churches who say that homosexual sex is NOT a son, when done in the confines of a Gay Marriage/Relationship.

CONCLUSION: Scholars have proven that the biblical translations about homosexuality being a sin are false, but most Christian churches are far too invested in the lie to change their teachings.  Science has now proven that people are born homosexual and that it is seen throughout the animal kingdom, especially in mammals like us.  Therefore, homosexuality must be part of God's plan (if there is a god).  Religion has been at war with Science for thousands of years.  It will take a long time to admit the truth, if ever.

I imagine that you do not have an interest in Christianity and Homosexuality, but if you have freinds who are Gay and Christian, you might give them following 3 links to my papers about it, to show them that God, Jesus and the bible do not say that homosexual sex is a sin:
New Testament + Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity New Testament & Homosexuality
Old Testament + Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity Old Testament & Homosexuality
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Sodom and Gomorra were two ancient Early-Bronze-Age cities in a fertile region of the Middle East, near the Dead Sea.  The time is shortly before dawn on 6-29-3129 BCE, and 600 miles (966 Km) from Sodom & Gomorrah, there are two Samarian Astronomers observing the skies.  They observed a fiery body traveling across the night sky.  They inscribed its path and it relative course and position against the stars on a clay disk, called a Planisphere.  Dr. Hempsall and Alan Bond deciphered the clay disk and used computers to recreate the night sky thousands of years ago. They pinpointed the sighting of the ancient astronomers to shortly before dawn on June 29 in the year 3123 B.C.
The asteroid, which was about 1.25 Km (0.78 Miles) in diameter, exploded above the ground with a force of a 10,000 megaton nuclear weapon (100 times more powerful than any nuclear weapon on earth). 
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Oralle08 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
That's terrible! Nobody should have to go through with things like that, no matter what their sexual orientation is. It sickens me that this actually happened to people, even if they'd done absolutely nothing wrong. :(
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, it is terrible.  It is not even a matter of Islam, it is amateur of using religion as an excuse for brutality.  Iran also intimidates and/or forces Gay men to have Sexual Reassignment Surgery (cuts off their penis and make a vagina) to turn them into women, and to take Lesbians and turn them into men.  Iran has the highest rate of Sexual Reassignment Surgery in the world, and the vast majority of it is involuntary (do it face death).

Science has proven that we are born Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Asexual, Transgender and everything in-between, yet still religions ignores this and continues to vilify, murder, torture, and discriminate against Sexual Minorities, all in the name of their God and prophets.
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Oralle08 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The things that people do these days sickens me :( Even if I'm not a religious person, I still know that God loves all of us unconditionally and -as far as my knowledge goes of religion on this subject- wouldn't punish people for who they love, and yet people take it upon themselves to punish those who have apparently done wrong
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
This has a lot to do with Human Nature itself, where people tend to naturally desire to feel superior to others, or to hide their own faults and shortcomings by tearing other people down.  This is one of the fundamental causes of bigotry.  Jesus spoke about looking to improve your own soul, rather than pointing your finger at others in righteousness.  We all have faults to the day we die.  Therefore we can always be focused on improving ourselves, rather than wasting time and energy focused on other people's faults.

Religion can sometimes give permission to be bigoted, as Christianity supported slavery around the world for over a millennium and a half. Christianity also supported bigotry against non-Christians, and even again other types of Christians.  I was raised believing that Protestants could not go to heaven and that marrying a protestant was a sin. Christianity supported bigotry against Heathens (anyone not a Christian), Pagans (believe in more than one god), Jews, etc.  Christianity also supported bigotry against Sexual Minorities for over two millennia. 

During the Little Ice Age of Europe, people started blaming the church for horrible weather for over a hundred years, leading to disease, plague and famine. Less money was coming into the church and attendance in church was dropping. So the Pope decided to proclaim that the cause for the bad weather was witches, and created the church organization that oversaw hundreds of years of witch hunts, witch burnings/stoning/drownings and countless suffering.  This organization became that platform for the horror of the Inquisitions that saw the torture, murder and burning of hundreds of thousands of people.   A pope woke up one morning and declared he had a vision from God to wipe-out the Cathars, committing genocide in the killing of all children, women and men who were Cathars.

The thing to remember is that organized RELIGIONS are all about people—they are like exclusive clubs with tons of rules.  Many if not most of a Religion's "rules" are not from the words of Jesus Christ.  They are rules created by men, who say they are interpreting the way they believe god wants you to live your life.

SPIRITUALITY is a very different thing.  Spirituality is all about your own person spiritual connections to your believes and values and usually a higher power. 

CONCLUSION: People are very fallible.  Religions are made-up of fallible people who set the rules and regulations of the religion. The followers of a given religion are also fallible people.  Many of these fallible people use their religion as an excuse to be cruel, to discriminate, lie, cheat, torture, murder, genocide and all other sorts of sin, all in the same of their god and religion.  When a religion then supports those acts, the results is a horror.  This is true of all religions.  Even Buddhism has seen some excesses, although they are the least abusive of their religion.  
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Oralle08 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Very interesting. I can't help but ask, do you have a degree in psychology or something? Because I'm quite impressed with your views on human nature, and I agree with you about some people using religion
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I have a degree in Engineering, but I got certified as a Peer Counselor at the University of Washington.  I have been doing Peer Counseling for over 23 years.  I started with Sexual Minority Adults and Street Kids, but eventually focused on Sexual Minority Youth, which I still do now. Most of the counseling is focused on depression/anxiety, suicide and Sexual Minority issues, rape, low self-worth and low self-confidence, etc.  DA is one of the outlets I used to connect with those needing help. 

I am Autistic.  Understanding people was a major deficit in me. I think this really pushed me hard to understand what made people tick. Most of the things you do involving socializing are things I could not do.  I was extremely isolated when I was a boy.  I could not understand why people did bad things to me, because I never had thoughts of doing bad things to others.  So, it made no sense to me. When I went to sea, my crew was constantly changing (every month), so I had to learn about each of them as fast as possible. It was after I survived trying to kill myself when I learned the most.  In my attempt to understand myself, I learned a great deal about others and human nature.  Finally, when you have experience the problems and issues that many others have, like depression, suicide, rape, self-hatred, survivor of abuse, death and grief, low self-confidence, etc, you can then relate better to those who have these issues. 

I retired at age 34 as a Chief Engineer, then dedicated my life to volunteer work.  I started out working to feed the hungry and do in-home care for those dying of AIDS.  I then added in primary care for those dying of AIDS (hospice care), and went to school for Counseling.  As my arthritis and nerve degeneration progressed (started age 12), I was losing the ability to do physical care of others, so I started focusing more on counseling.  
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Ghoti657 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Oh I got two of my degrees at UW I'm at U of Utah now :( it is really really really annoying here.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Utah must be rather isolating for you after living in Seattle, but at least once you finish university work at least you will be free to move and discover diversity of people and culture again, assuming your other half is willing to move.  I earned my Engineering Degree in California, near San Francisco, from a Merchant Marine Academy.  In your first year, you are not even allowed to leave campus except on certain holidays, which puts a whole new meaning in the concept of sticking to studying.  So, maybe Utah is not so bad after all, lol.  Hey, second year you can go out on weekends, then third year you can leave until midnight, and fourth year you can leave anytime, but then they give you so many duties, responsibilities and work that you can't leave anyway.

I must confess to desiring a warmer climate, like maybe NAPA or Sonoma Valleys, Santa Barbara, etc, but my partner seems glued to Seattle, and my older sister is here.  Cold and wet is very hard on arthritis.
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Oralle08 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You are a very good person, I have to say. I wish there were more people out there like you had have the ability to make a difference. And Peer Counsellor for over 23 years? That's quite an achievement. Kudos to you!
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks.  I wish you all the best that life and love can offer you.
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DeviantAspie Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What does castration do?? Pfft. Wtf?
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Castration is a MUTILATION of Boys and Men. This is when the TESTICLES & SCOTUM of a boy or man are cut off. The testicles are where the vast majority of testosterone is produced in men and boys, as is the only place where sperm is produced. Castration causes a feminization of men. A man needs full levels of Testosterone to maintain muscle mass, deep voice, body hair, flat chests, lower body fat, sexual libido, ability to engage in sex, etc. Castration also sterilizes a man, meaning he can never father a child. Removing the testicles of boys and young men under the age of 25 will arrest their development in a number of ways. When done to men, the men can start devoting breasts, lose body hair, lose muscle mass, gain body fat, and lose the desire and ability to be sexual. It robs men of their masculinity and masculine identity.

In the 18th century Christian Catholic church, they used to cut the testicles off of young boys so that their voices would not change, keeping the boys and later men with beautiful soprano voices. The boys and men were known throughout the world as the Castrati or Castrato [link]. They concealed their emotional pain while being idolized as singing angels by the royal courts and the relatively few wealthy aristocrats, yet were shunned as half-men by everyone else. Of course we now know it to have been an atrocity committed against young boys, who had to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives.

Anne Rice, the author of the Vampire books, wrote a book Cry To Heaven (iTunes [link]) (Amazon [link]) about a boy who was made Castrati. It is a good read.

In the Persian empire and arab areas, boys and young men were castrated so that they could be servants and maintainers of the Harems. The wealthy men could marry many wives and they wives lived isolated lives, sealed way from the world in Harems. No man could ever enter except the one husband, or face execution. Therefore they used castrated men who could not sire any babies.

The Chinese did the same thing, only using them for harems and also as administrators for the Emperors courts, basically administering the entire empire, making them very powerful, but also despised.

Testosterone is actually the driver of sexual libido (sex drive) in both men and women, but the levels in women are much, much lower than in men.

Another horrible Genital Mutilation going on this very day in large numbers, is Female Genital Mutilation (Female Circumcision) [link] where women are mutated in 28 countries in western, eastern, and north-eastern Africa, particularly Egypt and Ethiopia, and in parts of Asia and the Middle East (Arab Countries) to prevent girls and women from ever enjoying sex, to better please men, etc, and in fact it often makes sex painful, but they have no power to say 'no' to sex, being essentially slaves in all ways to their husbands.

It can be the removal of the clitoris and clitoral hood (Type I), or go even further and removal of the clitoris and inner labia (Type II), or the worse, the removal of all or part of the inner and outer labia, and the clitoris, and the fusion of the wound (Type III); only a small hole is left for the passage of urine and menstrual blood, and the wound is opened for intercourse and childbirth. It is horrific and horribly painful for the woman to have sex with a Type III.

The reasons given for the practice, depending on where it is being done, are as follows:
    Hygienic and Aesthetic: The external female genitalia are considered dirty and "unsightly" and should be flat, rigid and dry;

    Sociological: Identification with the cultural traditions, as a rite of passage of girls into womanhood, and for the maintenance of social cohesion;

    Psychological: Reduction of sensitive tissue and thus to curb sexual pleasure in order to maintain chastity and virginity, to guarantee women's fidelity, and even to increase male sexual pleasure;

    Myths and False Beliefs: To enhance fertility and promote child survival; and

    Religious: Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting has been practiced in a range of communities with different religions: Christian, Muslim and Animist. Yes, Christians do this too. Muslim communities often have the FALSE belief that Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting is related to teachings of the Islamic law.
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DeviantAspie Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, that is horrible! I read about female genital mutilation, I know it happens in Egypt and the mother supports their own daughter to get it at a young age. So horrifying. I wouldn't even wish that on my own worst enemy.
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DeviantAspie Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wait, I though of something else. Nevermind.
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ChocolateIcecake Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
Gosh, I wish I had stumbled upon this earlier; it's got everything I need to know about how Homosexuals were treated in Mental Institutions. (I'm writing a story, you see) It's really sad to see how these people were treated then and now. Again, thank you for posting this, I hope I can use some of the information.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Feel free to use what you can. I can give you the reference links to the videos and some of the information. Most of it is readily found. I wrote this with an intention that it be the introduction to help people understand Stonewall itself, which I was going to write next. Time has been a big issue, but I still hope to do it. You cannot possibly understand Stonewall, without understand what it was like before Stonewall.

I would like to add that iI grew up in the 1950s through 1970s and entered the Gay community in around 1976. I lived through much of the history of that time. I can especially speak of what it was like top be Gay in the 1970s, pre-AIDS, and then living through the first rumors of the Gay cancer, then AIDS. I have been with my partner Greg for over 22 years now.

I highly recommend renting or buying the DVD STONEWALL UPRISING [link] $13.49 by PBS. I used it as a reference in a few places. It is a valuable reference for anyone interested in Gay History.

I have other LGBTQ related Deviations, if you would like me to Note you a Thumbnail list.

Best of luck in your project.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
I remember seeing a video as AIDS started to ravage the gay community in which a CDC worker was putting up AIDS warning posters in San Francisco and a group of gay men was following her around, screaming at her that the government was "just trying to control the gay lifestyle" and tearing the posters down as she put them up.

After reading this, I feel more sympathy for those poor, misguided no doubt long dead men, most of whom no doubt refused to believe in the monster until it's claws were in them.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Hi, Thanks for writing and for your interest in the subject.

I was born in 1955 and was a young man when AIDS first appeared. I wrote this deviation to help younger people better understand Gay Pride, Stonewall and yes even the attitudes of Gay men and women back then.

The Gay Community was very underground and it was not even easy to find your way into it. Homosexuality was a crime. Both the FBI and Police had major surveillance and sting operations to root-out this homosexual perversion from society. Being ‘Outed’ meant losing your licenses (be it as a hairdresser, doctor, Merchant Seaman, lawyer, etc), your career and often your family and friends. When I came out to my mother, she called me a disgusting Pervert and said she would rather me be, “Dead than Queer.”

Growing up Gay then was a living hell for the vast majority of us. I started seeing how I was different at age 11. I was raised in a very strict Catholic family and I was an altar boy who wanted to be a Priest. One day our priest told us altar boys that when a boy is attracted to another boy he is an Abomination in the eyes of God, doomed to burn for an eternity in the everlasting fires of Gahanna. Note: Gahanna was the garbage dump for Jerusalem, located in the Valley of Hinnom, so the methane gas produced by the rotting biologicals kept the dump smoldering and burning constantly. I was horrified and kept praying to God to make me ‘Normal.’ A few days later I tried to kill myself by jumping off a Ventura Freeway overpass, but some stranger grabbed my feet aw I going over the chain link fence.

The government and police were our enemies. Even now, you cannot trust sex surveys involving homosexuality, because even though they may tell you it is anonymous, do you believe them? Even now many gay couples will not mark their census as being in homosexual relationship. The older you are, the less you trust such things. The fear and distrust is hard-wired into us from a young-age.

Even back in the 1970s it was still really bad, with the only openly gay people existing in the Gay Ghettos of the largest cities. There were few Gay relationships because two men couldn’t live together for very long without suspicion, even with women freinds coming and going. I only got away with having a partner and living with him, because my employer, Exxon (homophobe central) was thousands of miles away, and they flew me around the world to where I was needed. I had to carefully watch everything I said and did, and went talking about home life, constantly turning ‘him’ and ‘he’ into ‘her’ and ‘she.’ I once sat down and crossed one of my knees over the other, and it was immediately noticed and joked about for a week, about how I sat like a faggot. Mail is not private on ships, so Paul became Paulla in our mail. On Merchant ships, if they find out you are Gay, they kill you, they simply toss you over the side of the ship (The FBI gets told, “The poor fellow must have slipped and gone over the side during the night). I imagine that you think I am exaggerating, but that was how it was in those days.

AIDS
We first started hearing rumors about Gay meant getting sick and dying from something. The CDC started trying to get the word out to the Gay Community. Many Gay men saw it as a ploy to identify us for the government, while others felt that the disease was generated by the government to kill us. It was around 1979 when I volunteered in trials for the Hepatitis B vaccine. When the vaccine later came out, it was only available to those at high wrist, such as medical workers and homosexuals. Since the vaccine was being made in Africa then, and was tested on monkeys before humans, many in the Gay community that AIDS hit medical workers and homosexuals at a much higher rate because of so many of us getting the Hep B vaccine.

Next, couple all of this to the fact that other than the CDC, no one in the government was willing to do anything about AIDS—NOTHING. President Reagan refused to even say the word AIDS. There were no research funds, almost no prevention funds. We knew almost nothing about AIDS for far too long, not knowing how it was spread, how you got infected, if treatment was possible. Gay men were dying alone on tourneys in hallways. I had a friend who did not received CPR because the doctors and nurses refused to do it. All of this was reinforcing the belief that the government was our enemy.

Our Sexual Minority Community took it all on ourselves. We formed charities, volunteered, became activists. I left my job at age 34 and devoted my life to volunteering to care for those dying of AIDS, then later counseling to those in our community. We also started the Quilt project which did a great deal to raise awareness. We started hospice care and soup kitchens.

Yes, many did feel that the government was, “just trying to control the gay lifestyle,” but it is easily understood if taken in the proper cultural context of what it was like to be Gay then.

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EARLY GAY MENTALITY

I thought it a good idea to tell just a bit of my story to help you see what being Gay was like back then:

I was 19 and a cadet in a Merchant Marine Academy, and I still knew nothing about sex, what it was, or even what those swear words meant. Besides growing up strictly catholic, it did not help that I was Autistic as well. A cadet smuggled a porn film and small projector onto the ship. While I was able to see some of the oral sex, I asked one of my mates why that naked guy was doing push-ups on top of that woman. Thank some deity that they all took it as a grand joke, not realizing I was serious. I still knew nothing of Gay sex. I fantasized simply about hugging and kissing a guy and living together.

I would go into the city on a weekend day sometimes to visit ships and get tours of their Engine rooms. One time, in a public restroom, I got grabbed from behind by two men, one with a rather large and sharp looking knife, gagged and dragged into a utility closet. Let me just say that some but not much happened before I heard men in the restroom and kicked the lower guy hard enough that it brought help. One of the rescuers asked me to please not judge all gay men based on those two animals. I asked what “Gay” was, and shocked to realize I was one. After I told him, he gave me his copy of the local gay newspaper, which also covered my home city. This would later be my ticket into the Gay Community.

You could not look-up ‘Gay’ in the phone book, there was no internet, no advertisement in newspapers or magazines, and gay publications were rare and only obtainable in the largest cities. Being Gay in rural areas and small towns usually meant a lifetime of loneliness and lack of intimacy in your life.

I was 22 and sailing on ships when I could not stand the loneliness anyone. I grew up in a home where pretty much the only touch was rough-touch and violent touch. It was very COLD in my family, no intimacy. Plus, my Autism and the rape thing had been holding me back from going out to try to meet men. Anyway, I forced myself to go to one of the Gay bars listed in the 2+ year-old newspaper the man had given me years before (some places were now closed but most were still open).

I sat there sipping a 7-Up (I never drank or did drugs) until a man approached me, we talked and then he asked me to come to his place. I went home with a guy. I was so innocent and naive that is was rather pathetic. I was thinking in terms of dating, like people did in High School (not allowed in the Academy). This was my first oral sex, and frankly, the entire incident was rather negative.

I entered a Gay Community were long-term romantic partnerships were rare, unless you could live and work in the Gay Ghettos. Two men could not live together for very long without very high risk of being outed. When I tired to date guys, they looked at me like I was nuts. One man said, “Gay men are very different from Straight men, we are not meant to be in relationships, we are made to Flit from flower to flower, like a bee, sucking of the many nectars.” But this is not what I wanted.

I have had many a Gay man accuse me of trying to EMULATE straight people and straight relationships, like you are trying to pretend you are straight. But this is not true. I do not even think it is healthy for Gay men and women to emulate gender and sexual roles in Gay Relationships. We can still have loving and committed relationships that are unique to us, based in equality and mutual respect at all levels. Gay relationships are now taken for granted, but there was a time when both Straight and Gay people were against Gay long-term committed relationships. The more our Western Society has come to tolerate and accept homosexuality, the more equality and freedom sexual minorities have gained, the greater the numbers of Gay relationships happen, and the less of a very promiscuous lifestyle you find in our community. Not having to exist in an underground community makes all the difference in the world to our Quality-Of-Life and being able to fulfill our dreams and potential, to experience long-term life.

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When I found guys who would date me, they would not wait for me when I went to sea for a couple of months (I would sail two months and then be home two months). Finally a guy waited for me, and I ended up in a relationship. As I said above, it only worked because I was thousands of miles away from my employer.

During the first 10 years of the AIDS crisis, I was in two relationships, then I was abstinent for a year before meeting my current partner of 23 years. Alas, I have buried so many friends, including a Straight woman friend.

Those who attack and hate Sexual Minorities like to mention how promiscuous Gay men were in those days, but I would point out to you that gay men were forced into an underground lifestyle where normal relationships were impossible, yet both needs for intimacy and sexuality still had to be met. Gay men survived as best they could, although many died young, often from suicide. 50% of boys who attempt or succeed in killing themselves are Gay or bisexual (as of about 6 years ago). Many Sexual Minority youth end up on the streets, having been thrown out on the street for being a sexual minority, or running from homophobic abuse. There are no statistics for my time period and up into the 1990s.

Lesbians had things a bit better than Gay men did in the times prior to the 1990s. It was very acceptable and even expected for two unmarried women to live together, going back well into the prior century. While lesbians were present and had a few significant roles at Stonewall, it was in very small numbers. It was not until the AIDS crisis when Lesbians really got heavily involved in the Sexual Minority movement, in fundraising and organizations helping men dying of AIDS. Gay leaders kept dying, so it was Lesbian leaders who helped to give the movement continuity.

If not for Gay activists, men and women who got arrested a number of times, who did public rallies and walking public picket lines, demanding research funds, demanding rights for Sexual Minorities, the rights our community now enjoy would not have happened yet.

CONCLUSION:

You and your generation cannot possibly fully realize what it was like growing up as a Sexual Minority in decades long past, but it is my hope that you can understand it enough to understand the Gay Underground Community of the past, and why some Gay men seems paranoid or downright crazy in hindsight.

You are told that only 10% of the population is Gay, but this is far from the truth. Until cultural fear is removed from those who identify as a Sexual Minority, we will never have an accurate count, no matter how anonymous pollster claim it is. In Exxon, they offered a free and completely anonymous program for alcohol and drug treatment (think of the Exxon Valdez), but not one of us in the fleet trusted Exxon’s claim of anonymity. It comes down to TRUST. There are far more Gay and Lesbian relationships than the census shows, because many in our community still distrust how the government will use such information.

We now know that all humans exist on a Sexual Spectrum Are You Straight, Gay, or Bi? [link] . There are no magic line drawn to define when you are Gay, Bisexual, or Straight. Some of us know our Sexual Identity from a young age, while other are still on a journey of discover in their 20s. Sexual Orientation is NOT about who you are physically attracted to or have sex with, it is about who you are romantically attracted to and who you romantically love.

I live in Washington Staite where we have Domestic Partnership’s, and as of the last election cycle, we now how Gay Marriage. Frankly, my partner and I did not need Gay Marriage. Greg and I long ago committed to each other in our own hearts, and covered all legal necessities via Trusts, Powers of Attorney, etc. But we worked to make Gay Marriage happen so that all sexual Minorities would have equal rights before the law. The notion of, “Separate but Equal,” is BIGOTRY.

If you have an interest in Sexual Minority Issues, I have some other related deviations:
    Coming Out Gay Age 13, 1968 [link]
    CELEBRATION of GAY PRIDE [link]
    The Science of Homosexuality [link]
    The Science of GAYDAR [link]
    Are You Straight, Gay, or Bi? [link]
    History of The Pink Triangle [link]
    The Faces of Teen Suicide [link]
    The Torture Of Homosexuals - 1950s to 1980s [link]
Obviously many Christian people (but not all by far) who believe that God and their church gives them permission to be bigoted against Sexual Minorities, allowing them to hate, discriminate, and commit crimes of inhumanity against Sexual Minorities. This flies in the face of the teachings of Christ. They quote the bible without knowing what they are talking about. You find out the truth about it all here:
    New Testament + Homosexuality [link]
    Old Testament + Homosexuality [link]
    SODOM DESTROYED ON 6-29-3129BC [link]
For deviations on Love, Finding a Mate, Relationships and Intimacy:
    What Is Love All About? [link]
    What To Look For In A Mate [link]
    RELATIONSHIPS [link]
    THE CHEMISTRY OF LOVE [link]
    HUMAN INTIMACY - 101 [link]
Thanks for having the patience to read all of this,
Matthew
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013
"You and your generation" I was born in 1953, my generation won't be around enough longer to gain any empathy you old folks are hoping we'll stumble into :D
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Goodness, you are only second person I have run into on DA older than I am. Without an age showing on a person’s page, it is usually safe for me to assume he or she is young, since the vast majority of people on DA are underage. When I first came to DA, it was not as skewed. I saw an age survey done for DA Deviants and it did not even include our age group, lol.

Anyway, since we are of the same generation, perhaps you will better understand my story.

Alas, my mother just passed away last night.

All the best...
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ChocolateIcecake Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012
Thank you, I would love the extra information and reference links. I'll see if I can find the DVD when I have time; school coming up and all.

And I'm glad that you've been with your partner for that amount of time. It must've been hard living through the 70s and being Gay. Kinda interested in your story now.

And thank you, it's going slowly, but I think I'll pull through with it. Once again, thank you so much for posting this. Really helpful.
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inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You are most welcome. The DVD I mentioned before [ STONEWALL UPRISING [link] $13.49 by PBS ] has a lot of good references in it, but here are some more to get you going:

LGBT History: The Decade of Lobotomies, Castration and Institutions: [link] including Atascadero State Hospital in California, dubbed the Homosexual Dachau death camp.

A gay teen describes her experience at a Utah brainwashing facility: [link]

AVERSION THERAPY TO CURE HOMOSEXUALITY:
[link]
[link]
[link] Man Killed
[link]

BYU Gay Electro Shock Torture: [link]

Electric shock aversion therapy device: [link] & [link]

Video: Waterboarding/Shock/Surgery for Gays (Historic footage): [link]
Video: Mike Wallace - "The Homosexuals" (1967, Recap Version) (homophobic): [link]
Video: BOYS BEWARE! Anti-Gay Lecture to Kids [link]
Video: Homosexuality - An Educational Movie (Homophobic ) [link]

The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment: Experimental therapy to cure feminine behavior in boys, leading to widespread suicides.
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 1 [link]
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 2 [link]
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 3 [link]
AC360 - The 'Sissy Boy' Experiment - Part 4 [link]

Video: Does Exodus sanction forcing kids into exgay programs? [link]

Lance Carrol (16) Survives Refuge, an ex-gay ministry survivor: [link]
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