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The Science of Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity The Science of Homosexuality by inspiredcreativity

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Please also see my deviation on [link] (The Science of GAYDAR).

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This is walk you through the science of how and why you, or others you know, were born homosexual or bisexual.

It shows that the preponderance of the evidence, if not the overwhelming evidence is that people are born homosexual or bisexual, and once you are born that Sexual Orientation will not change. However, it should be noted that a person's Sexual Identity can change.

For an explanation of the physical difference between Homosexuals and Heterosexuals, see my deviation on [link] (The Science of GAYDAR).

I have researched this extensively and have carefully followed developments for the past 20 years. There is much more documentation, but i wanted to keep this as short as possible.

Between this paper and my PDF on [link] (The Science of GAYDAR.pdf), there is zero doubt that we are born Homosexual or Bisexual, although part of that process may have happened in the womb.

Already some radical Conservatives have noted that soon we will be able to test a fetus for the Homosexuality, and then either treat it with hormone therapy to turn it Straight, or to abort the fetus.

I fear that this will be a battleground for my younger Queer Brothers and Sisters. I sure hope not, but you know it is true.

Homosexuality exists in over 1,500 Species that we know of so far. It is Natural and part of what keeps the human and animal Genome.

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Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
To all scientist trying to justificate homosexuality and then clinging to the same homophobe topics:

Spare us this shit and work on VHS, for exemple.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Sorry, I am not familiar with what you mean by "VHS."

Next, you presume that scientific research into homosexuality is about justification, and it is not.  Science seeks to find cause and effect, to find the truth about how things work.  Science has found that homosexuality is genetic and is set by the time the fetus is born.  It is true that many homophobic people, particularly Christian and Muslim homophobes, believe that homosexuality is a CHOICE, which science has proven to be completely WRONG.  Some homophobes believe that homosexuality is environmentally acquired, which has also been proven to be FALSE.

Science has also shown that Homosexuality is found throughout the animal kingdom in many thousands of species, thus showing that it is part of NATURE and is therefore natural. All of this also shows that homosexuality must be part of God's plan (if you believe in Gods).

Therefore, science has gone a long way to show that the claims of homophobes are completely false.  The homophobe response is simply to deny the science, which is nothing new, going back to the church insisting the earth was flat and the center of the universe (with the universe revolving around the earth), and executed or impassioned anyone who said otherwise.

Bigots will quote, or should I say misquote, science to its favor, then denounce any science proving that they are bigots.
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
VHS is as long as I know the name of sida.
I understand your opinion but I disagree. I don't believe my sexuality is anything genetic or unnatural too. 
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Of course your sexuality is natural.  The denial of science is done by those ignorant of science and scientific process.  I can even give you the name of one of the key genes for homosexuality.  Science also shows us that those who are Sexual Minorities actually have differences in their brain structures, compared to heterosexuals.  By they time you took your first breath of air, after birth, your gender identity and sexual orientation were set. Yu can claim that the earth is flat and that the sun reveals around the earth, but it does not make it true.  Even the Catholic church has bowed to science and agrees that people are born homosexual.  There is also strong evidence showing that homosexuality is passed down primarily on the x'X' chromosome, and thus on the female side of the family only, passed mother to daughter.

Some people are born with the body of one gender and the brain of the opposite gender, and the brain can be of any possible sexual orientation.  A person born with a female body and a male brain, who is attracted to men, is actually heterosexual, because sexual orientation depends on the brain, not the body.
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
.... And as I always say, LGBT isn't a minority. 

Let's be natural and face most people could express their appreciation of male and women beauty as well cuz they feel it, but they will hide it cuz society prefers you in an only way.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
The appreciation of male and female beauty, or of human beauty in general, has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I am about as Gay as you can get, with absolutely zero sexual response to women, but I can also very much appreciate the beauty of the female form and of individual women.   I have never hid my appreciation for female beauty and have seen it shared by other gay men, just as some Lesbians have expressed to me their appreciation of male beauty.

Sexual orientation is about Romantic and Sexual Response. 
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm awufully virgin and never loved... 
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
You have to allow yourself to love and allow yourself to be fully seen by another, and allow another in, to share and connect with you.  Love, in its essence , is all about intimate sharing and connecting on many different levels, such as emotionally, socially, intellectually, of the heart, spiritually, physically, sensually, sexually, and of course, time and space itself.  You cannot have love without risk.  therefore you cannot have love without courage. 

I am a big believer that the highest form of physical/sexual intimacy is when we express our love through sexuality.  Sex for the sake of sex is empty and ultimately unfulfilling.
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Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
... Are you trying to say my gender issues were completely set just after my birth?

Well, maybe you're true. It's still scary... One wants to think he decides his life a bit, but if don't even decide who I am in last instance, then I can plainly die.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
No, it is all set before you were born, during fetal development.  Some people choose to suppress their nature, or for their own practical reasons to live in a compromise situation.  For example, for a Transgender person, should he or she make no physical changes and live aw best they can in the body they were born in, or should they do hormone treatments, or do top surgery and/or do bottom surgery for complete gender reassignment?  If you were born a naturally effeminate gay male, do you spend your life forcing yourself to be more masculine?  There are still many choices we make when born a Sexual Minority.  In my case, going to an academy and going to deal for many years, I forced myself to be hyper masculinized, which was like a prison for me.  When I stopped going to sea, I let myself free to be who I am naturally.  I am not naturally effeminate, but i I also am not naturally hyper-masculinized.

I am working now with someone who is very young, who has been discovering her/his identity , at first thinking she was bisexual, then homosexual, then realizing she is actually transgender.  This is not a matter of choosing her gender and sexuality, it is all about discovering who she/he is, her/his inherent nature.  Then he gets to choose how he will present himself and express himself, choose what kind to identify to present, what physical transformations to make, etc.

Coming-out to yourself is the process of self-discovery, self-acceptance and then fully loving and embracing your gender and homosexual nature, however much you may have. 
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I feel I can't truly answer all the interest you demonstarte answering me like that

But You made me reflexion that something I fear is to someday discover I'm Transgender. Or to wake up and know I'm just plainly hetero. I just don't want to be the expression of a label for the heck of society. I want to be as unique as I already am...
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Your attitude is healthy, to not fear whoever you develop into, and to value your unique qualities. I have never understood the burning need to label yourself before you fully understand and feel what those labels are.  What is the big rush?  Most of us do want to eventually fall in love with someone and share our lives with that person.  Eventually it will happen.  In the past there was this horrible stigma if you fell in love with someone of the same gender or wanted to be a different gender, but that is becoming less and less of a stigma as time passes.

For most people, it helps to have a starting point of figuring out who you are attracted to romantically/sexually.  This will be clear to some, but confusing as heck for many others.  I have seen plenty of young people think they were bisexual, based on finding both genders very attractive and really liking someone of each gender, then pretty much assume it is romantic attraction—but if you have never experienced it before it is hard to know. For some boys it can be confusing because they can become turned-on by just about anything at certain times, and for some girls it can be confusing because it is hard to know if they are feeling arousal. Romantic attraction can come late to some girls.  It can be very confusing because close friendships might seem to be more, etc.  The solution to most of this is time.  The older you get, the more clarity you get on this.  My sister and her wife did not figure it out until their early twenties.  I figured it out when I was 11/12.

*** Most typically, those who are Transgender feel like they are in an alien body, like they are trapped in the wrong gender body.  Transgender F to M girls can find themselves craving to have a penis and hate or on’t like their breasts and vagina.  Transgender M to F boys find themselves desiring larger breasts and a vagina and hate or don’t like having a penis.

HOWEVER, it can be very confusing to some who question if they are Transgender, because you might actually be a very butch Lesbian who does not like her breasts, who wants to look, act and sound masculine, want to be like a man, but does not actually want to be a man with a man’s body; OR you might actually be a very effeminate Gay guy who loves everything feminine, wants to look female and act female, but does not actually want to be a woman in a woman’s body.

There is a major distinction between Transgender, where you feel driven to be the other gender, because you were born in the wrong gender body, and someone who is Lesbian but hyper masculine, or someone who is Gay but hyper-feminine.

If you are Transgender, the gender of who are attracted to does not help at all in determining if you are Transgender, because once you decide what your true gender is, you can be gay, straight or bi or anything in-between. If you were born in a girl’s body, but your brain (and true gender) is a boy, and you are attracted to girls, you are heterosexual, even though you are in a girl’s body and romantically love girls.  You can modify your body to change body gender, but you cannot modify your brain to change gender.

There can be a lot of agonizing over figuring out your Gender and Sexual Identity.

My best advice is to give yourself time. If I assume correctly that you are not of college age yet, then as your mature you will discover more and more about yourself and the questions about your nature, Transgender or homosexual, will become more and more clear with time. Be kind and gentle with yourself, be compassionate and forgiving of yourself as work through it all.

A complete Gender Reassignment for Female-to-Male transformation involves hormone treatments, breast reduction surgery, and transforming the vagina into a penis.  The sexual nerves of the clitoris are used to form the glans of the penis, so it should feel almost the same as a normal penis, but it cannot naturally become erect. Therefore a prosthetic is built into the new penis. There are multiple designs.  For example, one design uses the prosthetic testicles as pumps to inflate the prosthetic in the penis to make it erect and look like and feel like an erect penis (as close as possible).  My understanding is that you can make the penis erect fairly quickly and deflate it fairly quickly.  There are designs that might appeal to a person more.  You can also add surgery to create an Adam’s Apple (and in M to F, surgery to shave down the Adam’s Apple). If your facial structure is not male enough to your taste, plastic surgery can be done with chin implants, etc.

One warning, hormone treatments for M to F Reassignment tends to cause people to gain excess weight.  If you do not want to be overweight or obese, plan on doing daily vigorous physical workouts.  I did a 2-hour workout 5 days a week for much of my life, using cross-country ski machine/rowing machine/running for cardio, plus resistance training for muscle maintenance, and stretching [at sea, it was sometimes 1 to 1.5 hours a day].  For about 15 years I danced 5 nights a week, 4 hours of almost continuous dancing (ballroom, two-step, west cast swing, etc) which is like jogging, only far more fun, on top of my 2-hour per day workout.  I danced as both a leader and follower in many different dances.

If you want to be a man’s man, it means working out a lot to maintain your body in good trim.   You do NOT need large muscle bulk.  Strength does NOT come from muscle bulk.  If you do some resistance training, your muscles will bulk up some, to their natural state.  Then if you keep pushing your muscles to the tearing point, the muscles heal with greater bulk. If instead you work to maintain the initial strength you built, it is a healthier state to be in.  Then you do a daily cardiovascular burn to burn off fat and keep your cardiovascular system healthy (dancing, cross-country ski machine, rowing machine, running, swimming, etc), do some resistance work (weights or machines) to keep your muscled toned, and stretching to keep your body and muscles limber.  Then if you eat healthy, you should be healthy and have a good-looking and healthy body for most of your life.

I wish you all the best…
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Six-Foot-Two Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
very interesting article, thank you for sharing!
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You are most welcome. The deviation is getting a bit out of date, since there is so much new science coming out around homosexuality, but this still gives you a good background. The most important role of science in homosexuality is in convincing the general population that Homosexuality is in factor Natural and part of not only the human genome, but of the entire animal kingdom.

The reason why this is so important is because of both Christianity and Islam desperately clinging to the idea that homosexuality is something you choose and is somehow an abomination of nature. If they claim that their Gods make no mistakes, and science proves that all forms of homosexuality are in fact natural and part of the human genome, then their god obviously intended it that way.

The Catholic church in America (American Conference of Bishops) have acknowledged that ‘some' homosexuals (non including bisexuals) are born that way and that God intended that such people bear the burden of living all their lives without sex, as a test of their faith. I must give them credit for creativity in their lies, lol.

However, the Science of Homosexuality is a double edged sword that can also the LGBTQ community. Already there is talk by religious people about how Science could be used to eliminate homosexuality from mankind, a form of genocide, they say like eliminating a disease or birth defect.

The battle against homophobes may have another 100 years to go. It is my hope that you and future generations of LGBTQ people will keep fighting against homophobia and not become complacent.
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There's some nice things on your speech.

But it isn't anything liberating for LGBT rights to say, at the end, that gay men are like that cuz they'r genetically more feminine.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I never said anything about gay men being more feminine, because, in fact, the large majority of homosexual men are not feminine at all.  Further, some Straight (heterosexual) men are effeminate.  I write how masculinity and femininity are on a spectrum that crosses gender and sexual orientation.  You can have straight women, straight men, Lesbians and Gay men who are masculine. You can have straight men, straight women, Lesbians and Gay men who are feminine.

However, the trait of masculinity and femininity is GENETIC and inborn, no matter your gender or sexual orientation.

That said, there is something referred to as HOMOSEXUAL MANNERISMS, which is like an accent, something acquired either on purpose or through prolonged exposure, which is separate from masculinity and femininity, and this is obviously NOT genetic.
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
As I say, I understand you but I don't need any scientist to justificate my gender issues or sexual orientation.

They rather fuck everything up with those studies.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
But I just said that the science is NOT there to justify anything. Science EXPLAINS HOW things work. 
Rockdwarf Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeah, teah, you're right. 

But isn't it a coincidence scientists saying such things explain how gay male brain activity and female one are similar, etc?

I think gayness is something to let be as it is. I feel it's the best for it to be acceptated more generally.

And I think no one really is truly hetero, just people wouldn't express the more marginal parts of their sexuality cuz straightness is better acceptated.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
If you look at my deviation  Are You Gay, Bi or Straight?
For many people, there is no question at all about what their Sexual Orientation and Identity are, starting at a very young age.  But for many others, it can be very confusing and traumatic.  ALL of us are a blend of Straight and Gay. People who are almost completely Straight or Gay usually know how they are different from very young ages. Everyone else will have some someone degree of Confusion and Questioning.  Many young people have a small amount of latent homosexuality, enough to confuse them, but not enough to be a Bisexual. Others can be confused by having a friend they love dearly. Some young people are late bloomers, becoming sexually aware later than most others.  For others, there is also confusion about Gender.  For others, they may not have sexual feelings at all.
Some people may not become aware of their homosexual nature, or may not recognize, realize, or acknowledge their homo
 Are You Straight, Gay, or Bi, I describe how human being is a combination of 4 Spectrums, Gender, Sexual Orientation, Masculinity/FemininitySexual Drive (libido).  A person who is 85% Straight and 15% homosexual is going to identify as Straight, because 15% gay will not express itself as a sexual attraction to the same gender.  Others are primarily one thing and secondarily to the other.  They could enjoy sexual connection and intimacy with someone of the same gender, but never choose a person of the same gender to be a romantic partner.  The same would be true of a person primarily homosexual and secondarily straight.

This is why I say that romantic attraction and choice is the true indicator of sexual identity.  If you are romantically attracted to people of both genders, enough to commit to them to share your life with, then you are Bisexual. 

You are correct about some people choose to live a lie, because the lie is more acceptable to society, which is very sad.  I was born in 1955 and raised in a society completely intolerant to homosexuality, a society that routinely tortured (electric shocks to the genitals and lobotomies to turn you into a living vegetable), imprisonment, bashing, and murder.  My generation and those before us worked to give us the freedoms we have today, but we still have a long way to go, perhaps with your help.

When I was a young man, two men could not live together unless they had a constant parade of women visiting.  Suspicion or being caught meant the end of your life, loss of freinds and family, loss of career, loss of employment, having your name and phone number published in the local newspaper as a pervert.  The only sanctuary were small Gay Ghettos in the largest cities, and even there you were constantly harassed by police and groups of roaming gay bashers.  All gay establishments were underground, and it was difficult for young gay people to even find such places to meet people like you.  I first tried to kill myself over bing Gay when I was 13.

Basically, if you had enough straight in you to live straight, you did, and sadly for many women in particular, even gay men would marry an unsuspecting woman, force themselves to have sex a few times, and otherwise have no intimacy their wives, who suffered much for it, often while the gay man would sneak off to have sex with men.

The good news is that in the United States and Western Europe, this kind of think is far less common, as it gets easier to be out and successful.  Alas, in far too many places in this world, Sexual Minority people continue to be executed, murdered, imprisoned, tortured, harassed, and discriminated against.  But there has been enough progress to give hope that someday we will reach equality worldwide…far, far in the future.  I have to say that I find the positive changes I have seen in my lifetime, for Sexual Minorities, far exceeds anything I expected when I was a young man.

The very best thing that you can do for your community, as a Sexual minority, is to live openly as who your really are. Homophobes demonize use and objectify us, but for many, once they get to know a Sexual minority person, it is often enough for them to either question their homophobia, or to completely let go of their homophobia.

Finally, there is no arguing that Homosexuals, Bisexuals, Primarily Homosexual/Secondarily Heterosexual , Transgender and other gender people are in the minority.  I do believe that the count of those believed to be homosexuals and bisexuals is far undercounted, because they only go bytes who are willing to self-identify in surveys, and based on old studies done by Masters & Johnson and Keane many decades ago, where the only gay people surveyed were in Gay bars in San Francisco and New York.  When you include ever man and woman who are homosexual enough to enjoy a same-sex intimacy and sexuality, I bet the numbers are far higher than claimed.  The time we will ever really know how many there are, is when there is no longer any stigma at all attached to homosexuality.   I know Gay people who will not even admit to being Gay on an anonymous survey, because anonymity cannot be trusted.

My partner and i have been 'out' for 25 years as a Gay couple, and when the US Census included a check box for Gay marriage/Domestic partners, even we had a short discussion about checking the box, due to distrust over how the information could be used against us. Any survey meant to document how many homosexuals there are is automatically wrong, because far too many are not willing to be counted.
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Six-Foot-Two Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I think honestly a lot of Christians are threatened by homosexuality...because being homosexual isn't really a choice, it's just how some people are wired differently (for whatever reason). And God says in his Bible that he disagrees with people are confused about it in general, and it pushes a lot of folks away from the church.

I want to laugh at these people, because honestly, he's God. He can't be threatened. lol. and also: "Don't hate somebody because they sin differently than you." -anon

My opinion on homosexuality? Coming from a Christian standpoint: mind your own business. (not YOU fyi; just in general) Have a relationship with God, don't judge people (that's not your job as a Christian, it's to follow Jesus and help others), and love, love, love.

I'm sorry if you've had people judging you in your life because you're gay or whatever, I admire your drive. :) Peace, friend.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Out of convenience, when talking about Christianity and Homosexuality, we tend to lump all Christians together. However, not all Christians are stuck to the ‘homosexuality is a sin’ lie. There are a number of churches, like the MCC, Unitarian, and some Lutheran churches who believe that same-sex sex, when done within the framework of a loving long-term relationship, is NOT a sin. Remember that ALL sex outside of marriage is considered a sin in all Christian Faiths. These other churches, like the MCC, simply believe that same-sex couples can be married in the eyes of God, therefore homosexual sex between loving couples is Ok.

We keep hearing that God and the Bible are against homosexuality, yet this is not true. If you look at the New Testament, it is important to note that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John never show Jesus ever once say a single word or hint that homosexuality is wrong or bad, or that same-sex sex is wrong or bad. This is especially significant since Jesus was born and raised and lived his 33 to 35 years in the Roman Empire, in Judea, where there was a very strong Roman presence and cultural influence (in both directions).

Archeology has now shown that Jesus was raised in a very urban area with a high density of Roman Citizens and Roman Garrisons. Same-sex sex was openly practiced by Romans and part of their culture. Jesus was bound to have at least heard of same-sex sex. Homosexuality was not a concept in the ancient world. Same-sex sex was just once aspect or form of sexual expression. In fact, there is no Greek word for homosexuality nor even a specific word for same-sex sex, just sex. Jesus’ father Joseph was a carpenter, which back then would be an upper-middle-class trade, and he would have worked primarily for Romans in that particular setting.

The often quoted passages in Paul, Romans and Corinthians, were deliberately mistranslated at around AD 1100. If you look at the oldest surveying copy of the writings of Paul, you will find that Paul never said anything against homosexuality. The New Testament was originally written entirely in Coptic Greek. Translators took word-pair and claimed it meant homosexual sex, even though the same word-pair is used elsewhere in Greek writing and in the Bible, without any sexual meaning.

God never mentioned homosexuality or same-sex sex in the Ten Commandments. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah never had anything to do with homosexuality in the Jewish Faith, and not in the Christian Faith until AD 1100. Christians base the entire homosexuality thing on when the Sodomites called out to Lot to send the strangers (angels) out to them, so that they might KNOW them. Christian translators believe that the word KNOW meant that ALL Sodomites, men, women, and children, wanted sex with the strangers, claiming the word “KNOW” meant ‘to have sex with.’ It is absurd, because in the thousands of usages of that word in the Bible, there are only a few believed to be about sex. The story does not say the the Sodomites present were only men.

I take a much deeper look at this in my three deviations, for both the New and Old Testaments:
    New Testament & Homosexuality [link]
    Old Testament & Homosexuality [link]
    SODOM DESTROYED ON 6-29-3129BC [link]
I agree with you that a person’s Faith should be a private thing, or shared with those of like beliefs, and should never be imposed on others. But the history of both Islam and Christianity is one of imposing the faith on others, often brutally and through invasion and threat.

Peace to as well, and a Happy New Year.
Six-Foot-Two Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Thanks, you too...and thank you for the information! God bless and happy New Year. :)
talia-vin Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thank You. If you have an interest in my other LGBTQ relation Deviations, you can find them here: [link]

I have ones on Love, Relationships, finding a Mate...
talia-vin Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i read the gaydar one, good to know that i'm not just crazy (i had to explain "gaydar" to my mother once. she just gave me her blank-faced skeptical social worker face.)

i shall peruse your gallery slowly but surely : )
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
My goodness, a Social Worker would surely be familiar with Gaydar. Does she not ever work with LGBTQ people?
talia-vin Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
she's old fashioned. she didn't really recognize what it is. it's like the word ginormous. everyone knows but her.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
When I was very young, the word 'groovy' was common. Then it went away. About ten years later my Father started using it. It was alike a time warp. He must have heard it on a TV re-run or something. It was pretty funny.

The reality is that some parents are just very disconnected from the lives of their children. If they were very much involved in your daily life, they would know the lingo.

The problem is that many parents get used to their parental role when you are a baby and very young, where they are the Supreme Masters and teaching boundaries and obedience. The problem happens when the child goes into Puberty (anywhere from 11 to 14) and starts to form his or her own identity and sense of individuality. Older Kids do not want to be treated like they are stupid and a slave. Parent and child draw further apart.

The good way to do it is for the parents to start showing recognition of you as a person, start granting you more responsibility, and talking to you more as a friend, while also maintaining some discipline. It means also being more involved in the lives of your kids, but not in an intrusive way, more in a friend way. As the child grows and changes, so must the parent.

I have seen it done the right way, and it is really great to see how close everyone is. My parents were the last beings on the planet I would go to with a problem.
RoseFox101 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Student General Artist
The part about the animals surprised me, but I guess I should have seen that coming. i remember when my family was in Scotland, and I pointed out the adolecent bulls mounting each other. My father told me "It's just the instingt to mate". (I never believed him)

I think this is something many Homo/bisexuals should show to their homo/biphobic parents.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
In my experience, when you show Christian Homophobes the information about the Homosexuality throughout the living world, like in Fish, Insects, Mammals and other Animals, they simply deny it, and claim it must be bad science done by "Liberal" scientists who are biased. These are the same people denying that Global Warming is happening and that it is driven by human activity. Pope John XXI declared the laws of nature to be heretical in 1277 AD. For some reason, many religious people seem to feel that science and religion are in conflict with each other, but they really aren't. FAITH is just that. You can have a faith in a God, and still accept science.

The Catholic church has now agreed that people are born homosexual. You would think this would mean that they have to accept homosexuality as natural and good, since God does not make mistakes. Alas, the Church got around that by saying that people are born homosexual as God's test of their faith, and that homosexuals must lead a celibate life to prove the test.
RoseFox101 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2011  Student General Artist
It's sad, because I know allot of Christians who are Anti-Homophobes!
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
It is true that there are Christians in the world who do not believe that homosexuality is a sin, and work to help our community. There are also Christians who do believe it is a sin, but also do not believe in discriminating against LGBTQ people. Alas, tghey are in the minority, but some day they will hopefully be the majority of Christians.
mklamarie Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2011
After you have read this, you really should check this out.

If you criticize me for posting it, think this;
I took the time to read this, so you should be able to see both sides as well. Don't be ignorant, recognize both sides before you speak.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I have read the page, despite the pain I have to experience each time I have to experience bigotry, lies and hatred directed at me. I guess you were lucky to be born without having to worry about experiencing bigotry. I have listened to every argument and read countless papers from every side of this issue. I am 55 years old. I have lived the history of the Gay revolution fro Freedom. I have had my life threatened, I have been hit, I have had people throw things at me and scream FAGGOT. People write to me and say, "I hope you get AIDS and die and Agonizing death," and a lot worse than that. I march in a parade and have people like you screaming at insults at us and holding up sign that GOD HATES FAGS, YOU WIULL BURN IN HELL, and on and on.

Before getting to the web page, this might interest you:

Report: Catholic Attitudes on Gay and Lesbian Issues [link] : Key Findings:
    A majority of Catholics (56%) believe that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is not a sin.

    • Nearly three-quarters of Catholics favor either allowing gay and lesbian people to marry (43%) or allowing them to form civil unions (31%). Only 22% of Catholics say there should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship.

    • Nearly three-quarters (73%) of Catholics favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in the workplace; 63% of Catholics favor allowing gay and lesbian people to serve openly in the military; and 6-in-10 (60%) Catholics favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to adopt children.

    • Less than 4-in-10 Catholics give their own church top marks (a grade of an A or a B) on its handing of the issue of homosexuality; majorities of members of most other religious groups give their churches high marks.</b>
"The strong evidence of Catholic support for gay marriage highlights the growing acceptance in American culture of the normalcy of same-sex relationships, and further showcases ordinary Catholics' dissent from official church teaching on sexual morality," said Dr. Michelle Dillon, a panelist on the call releasing the report and chair of the Sociology Department at University of New Hampshire. "Most American Catholics believe that one can be a good Catholic and disagree with the Vatican and the bishops on issues of personal conscience; gay-marriage has clearly become another issue, along with artificial contraception and divorce and remarriage, which Catholics believe is not core to what it means to be Catholic."

Did you know that when you look at comparative studies that heterosexual teenagers are far more promiscuous than GLBTQ teenagers? A recent study mentioned in last week's TV special on Teen Sex, showed that teenagers who take the Abstinence or Virginity Pledge are having sex at the same rate as all other teenagers. But even worse, teenagers who take those pledges have a much higher rate of Teen Pregnancy and teen STD's, because they are not using condoms. College age GLBTQ people are having sex at the same rate as Heterosexual college age people.

HIV rates are rising in the Heterosexual community, as they are dropping in the LGBTQ community.

The Catholic Church teaches, in its Catechism that discrimination against homosexuals is WRONG.

I hesitated to bother to answer this comment. The trouble with answering is that you have no interest in listening. If you read my two papers on the Science of homosexuality and Gaydar, then you would understand that Homosexuality is natural, it is how people are born, and almost all people have some homosexuality in them, since sexuality in a measured on a continuous spectrum.

I can go through the web page line-by-line to show the lies and debunk quoted studies. I have been doing it for years, looking back at the original parameters of the studies or how you people choose to interpret them. For example, the last one I did quoted a San Francisco Study showing that homosexuals cannot maintain relationships for more than a few years. i investigated and found that the study had nothing to do with that and they collected no numbers on it. They were looking at open verses closed relationship numbers. You people lie a lot.

Figures don't lie, but figurers do. This will be a common theme throughout this comment.

Why spend hours going through this in great detail to debunk it, when it makes zero difference to you? You have no interest in the truth. You have bigoted ideas that you cannot let go of.

Statistics showing things like drug and alcohol use, disease rates, etc, for the gay community are largely flawed by a gross mis-assumption of the size of the community, which is assumed to be at too low of a size, skewing all numbers.

The web starts with a typical approach of showing high disease rates in the Gay male community. The Gay community of old, back in the before the mid 90's, was a community forced to exist in an underground environment, where your sexuality had to be secret, driven there by HATE-Monger Christians. We feared for our lives. If people found out your were Gay, you lost your job, your family, your friends. Two men living together for any length of time could not be sustained without discovery of their sexuality. Finding work was near impossible for a known gay man, due to bigotry and hate. Relationships were therefore extremely difficult to maintain. The only way to meet intimacy needs was through more fleeting-type connections. Growing up gay was also an incredible stress, as it is today. With hate-mongers like you driving kids to suicide with your hate, lies, and intolerance. This also had an affect on depression, alcohol abuse and drug abuse.

With a general public becoming more tolerant and less bigoted, Gay Relationships flourished and became the norm. Promiscuous sex dropped sharply, as did disease rates. The vast majority of LGBTQ people are in relationships, with an ever increasing number of Long-term relationships, such as mine at 21 years. Alcohol and drug problems have also normalized to be near equal to the heterosexual community.

CONCLUSION: As Americans become more tolerant, and rabid Christians Bigots loose their war of hate, LGBTQ people become more and more normalized in Relationships and disease rates. It is the repression and subjugation of LGBTQ people, by CHRISTIAN BIGOTS (not all Christians, just the bigoted hateful ones) that distort human behavior and force people to survive and adapt any way they can. Freedom is now at hand. Homosexuals will be living openly and leading normal lives like everyone else.

QUOTING OLD STUDIES: On this page you see a typical pattern of citing old studies. Newer studies show very different numbers. This is a deliberate distortion, a deliberate attempt to mislead people like you. First, the LGBTQ community of today is very different from the one of 10 years ago, and drastically different from the one of 20 years ago. Old studies showing statistics from pre-2000, for disease rates, etc, are meaningless for today. Secondly, I can bet you that the studies quoted are either distorted or flawed. I have spent a lot of time in the past years debunking web pages like this. I go back to each research paper to see the research parameters. Older studies were very limited in scope and were biased, focusing on select groups of men found in one part of the Gay community. Some of the studies cited in my research used as few as 80 Gay men, recruited from Gay bathhouses, to run their studies. The GLBTQ community is much wider than most think.

Your page says, "Homosexual sex is obviously a physiologically unnatural deviation from the heterosexual norm." This is a LIE. Science has shown it to be a lie. Homosexuality is in fact a very natural part of Nature, in the animal and insect kingdoms. It is normal to the human population and always has been, for as long as humans have existed, and is also normal in the ape and Chimpanzee groups. Science shows that you are born Homosexual.

Studies that talk about how many people are Gay, are actually looking at how many 100% homosexual and OUT people there are. The reality is that there are many, many more when you count those who are Predominately homosexual and secondarily heterosexual, and those who are bisexual and those who are primarily heterosexual, but secondarily homosexual.

Conversion of homosexuals to heterosexuals has never actually worked. While a Gay man may choose to become celibate, you will not find him having sex with a woman, unless it happens a few times in a year while he fantasizes about a man. Getting a Gay man to pretend he is straight is not making him straight. In all cases, those supposedly converted have gone back to a gay lifestyle, or have committed suicide.

As I said last time, people like you are killing other kids. 50% of all boys who kill themselves or attempt to kill themselves are Gay or bisexual: I asked you to look at: The Faces of Teen Suicide [link] Some of those kids were not even Gay, but were perceived to be gay by other kids who were trained to hate and discriminate against gay people, by their hate-monger parents. How do your parents live with themselves after teaching their children to hate and be bigots? They and you wrap yourself in Righteousness. Yet it will be you who has to answer to God for your sins of hate. Homosexuals are God's Gift to the earth after all.

I would go into great detail on each thing your web page says, showing the lies and distortions, but to what point? You are entrenched in your Hate and nothing I say, nor proof I offer, will change that.
mklamarie Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2011
I cannot count how many times I replied to this comment the day you wrote it and my computer did not send it.

Now, a few days later, I see 2 more comments, haha, as a struggle to change what I know to be correct.

I also, could easily point out NUMEROUS flaws and obvious wrongs, but you are a 55 year old man, and will not listen to a 15 year old girl. You are the one who has been thrust in the dark and sin for so long, you are blind to the truth.

Your arguments are invalid and demeaning. As a response to all of your comments, summing up all of what you said, you based your 'facts' on a bias personal level, getting defensive and using fancy words to mask nothing but ungrounded lies. You have called me names, have been rude, and uncivilized, and I am the hate monger? If so, than that seem pretty pathetic. You have obviously sold your soul to the devil and are so lost in lies that you don't and won't see the truth. I will pray that you change, but I am afraid it may be in vain.

I have never used hate language, hit or hurt a 'gay' and I never have caused a death. Using stereotypes is pretty sad, and I thought those who call themselves 'homosexuals' hated stereotypes?

Honestly, I am comforted I never have met you in person. You have made me saddened by your lost soul and silly words. And I pray for all of those souls who you have ruined.

I am not bias, a 'hate monger' or believe in what I believe because of my influences. Before you judge me of judging, look in the mirror.

I repeat, I honestly could simply fight my points truthfully, backed with dozens of facts, and in a very eloquent way..but, you will remain ignorant.

I would suggest that you would not argue you beliefs unless you know you will remain unattached to the situation, unlike you are now.

By the way, I did read your articles. I was unimpressed, I have seen more your argument written better. It was unmoving, and I was disgusted. This is an un-bias critique. Your facts are weak, and easily countered with more accurate facts.
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011  Student Writer
See how stupid you are? You claim you lack arguments, yet you act like a whiny little whore after being pointed out how stupid you truly are.

You, lady, are a disgrace to my christian friends.
zane1193 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
Sorry,I'm NOT buying it. However,IF it turns out to be true,it is a Genetic Defect/Disorder,and should be treated as such.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Homosexuality is natural and correct throughout the animal and insect kingdoms, fully engineered as it should be.

You are obviously a Bigot, which is also a human trait common to humans. Bigotry is evil based. Alas, it cannot be eradicated. You represent the very worst of Human Nature, namely:
    • Greed
    • Sexual drive
    • A desire for power, which includes the desire to Dominate others, Subjugate others, Impose your will over others, and Control over others.
    • Cruelty
    • Revenge & Retribution
    • Jealousy
    • Arrogance
    • FEAR
    • Believing that you are fundamentally better than others
Along with Ignorance, the last two are the Roots of BIGOTRY.

Goodness requires active CHOICE, which is driven by COMPASSION, FEAR of Hell, or for the REWARD of Heaven. I am a Humanist, centered in compassion, so my goodness comes from active CHOICE. Parents can start instilling the will to choose a path of goodness, OR imparting a value system largely based in Guilt and Shame, the offer of a heaven and the threat of a hell. But other forms of value systems have worked too.

Maybe someday you will find you way to goodness and compassion. In the meantime, I am sure it makes you feel very righteous to point your finger at homosexuals and discriminate against them.

If you are a Christian or Jew, the BIBLE is not actually against homosexual or homosexuality, but certain translators were. I have posted two papers on both the New and Old Testaments, showing the truth about how God and Jesus feel about Homosexuality.

Your Bigotry Damns you. Neither God nor Jesus supports Bigotry, the singling out of a segment of humanity for discrimination, vilification, abuse, and violence.
zane1193 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
Riiight. Certain "bad genes" run in my relatives family,there is no way I would willfully allow a child to endure the agony of living with either of those diseases when they can easily be prevented with genetic screening.Likewise,IF homosexuality is genetic,it can be screened for,and prevented/treated.Some forms of Mental Illness are genetic,and,people who suffer from them often consider themselves to be normal and refuse to seek help.That does NOT mean they are normal,only that they perceive themselves to be.

I am very sorry that you were alienated and bullied,that is NOT acceptable.One of my closest friends came out to me and revealed that he was BI,I was shocked,because he always dated very attractive girls,I NEVER imagined he was into guys too.This is what I said to him,"What did you think I was going to do,not speak to you anymore? You're one of my best friends." We still hang out to this day.

He has been bullied and alienated by straights,but,also by GAYS,especially MEN.Many give him grief because he is Bi,and nearly ALL of them are furious with his Political beliefs,he's CONSERVATIVE. My perception of the LGBT Community in part comes from how he has been treated among their ranks.They are just as vicious as many Homophobes,if not more so.I won't go into any explicit details of what I think of the Homosexual "Lifestyle",really a DEATHSTYLE,to be accurate.The endless string of one night stands,unsafe sex,orgies,bizarre sexual practices,drug use,not to mention the shallow materialistic nature of the Men.No wonder HIV runs rampant in your community to this day.No,I would never willingly doom a child this "Lifestyle" if it can be prevented.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
You do not sound like much of a friend at all to your Bi friend. How often do you tell him that he is a genetic mistake and should never have been allowed to be born. Wish you had been aborted, but your still my bro? If only we could abort the genetic mistakes called bigots. No more war, peace in the human race. But then we would lose most of the human race. It is just that many people learn to overcome their bigotry.

You are doing is clearly attacking me, as well as my brothers and sisters. You are attacking our very right to exist, to live, to be free. There is no more severe an attack a human can make on another. You are arrogant, believing that you are better than I am and have more right to exist than you do. I would argue that you are far worse a human being. I have given 22 years to full-time volunteer work, what have you done that was not in your self-interest, self-centered or selfish? You do not sound like much of a decent human being at all. My being born has done more for humankind than you could ever hope for.

While most GBLTQ people are liberal, for obvious reasons, we also have Log Cabin Republicans who are Conservative and also mainstream in the community. What most of us despise is HYPOCRISY, when we see Conservative GLBTQ people who are putting down their own kind, working against their own kind, all while hiding in the Closet, then sneaking off for sex in a park or public restroom. Most of the indiscriminate and anonymous gay sex going on in public areas are Bisexual men or Gay men who are in the Closet, many of them married to women and sneaking out for sex. The reason for that is they are too scared to go to gay events or go to gay places, because they might be recognized. We do not like this kind of hypocrisy. In my experience, Conservative GLBTQ people who are not working against their brothers and sisters, are welcomed in by the vast majority of us. We do not mind a difference of opinion, like on Gay Marriage, but attacking us is NOT OPINION, it is Bigotry.

If your Bi friend goes to gay social event and starts saying they are genetic mistakes who should have been aborted, then he is lucky to come out unscathed, although you will find Gay men much less violence than men like you, as it is part of your genetics to be Neanderthal and enjoy hurting people.

If your Bi friend goes to gay social event and starts saying he is against Gay Marriage, there will typically be a lively debate, but hardly a matter to reject a person or put him down in any way. If he presents things in a hateful and threatening way, then there could be a problem.

In conclusion, I do not understand what your friend is saying that gets GLBTQ people Furious with him. In any large group, there might be a loudmouth or two, but the vast majority will typically disagree, maybe even with passion, but I seldom have ever seen hatefulness or attacking because of difference of opinion.

HOWEVER, it is a different story if he is ATTACKING people's sexuality, their right to be who they are, their right to have their children, etc. If you attack a person, like you are doing here, it is NOT just a difference of Opinion. You attack a person, be ready for that person to defend him or herself with everything they have. If you attack my very right to be born and live, and threat to make that happen, do I not have the right to defend those rights, with life and death?

If you choose to work against a group of people, seeking to vilify them, limit their rights, limit their ability to live where they want, limit the ability work in their career, limit their rights, support school districts who discriminate against GLBTQ kids, etc, then of course your friend is going to run into trouble. Conservatives have abused us for as long as they have been around, seeking our direct harm and limiting our rights. Conservatives held parties to celebrate gay people dying of AIDS.

You and people like you are killing children, just as I tried to kill myself at age 13. You are killing children. 50% of all boys in the United States who kill themselves or attempt to kill themselves are Gay or bisexual. 670,000 GLBT kids at young as 13 are thrown out onto the street each year by Christian parents, when they find out their kinds are GLBTQ. Many of those kids die on the streets.

Here, take a look at the kids you helped to kill with your hate: The Faces of Teen Suicide [link]

Children are taught to hate homosexuals at a very young age. They are taught to hate by people like you from birth. Children are lied to by people like from birth, lied to about god hating homosexuals. Jesus never said a negative word about either homosexuality or homosexuals, despite growing up in Judea, in the Roman Empire, with Roman Garrisons, Roman soldiers and Roman citizens all around, who were openly practicing same-sex sex, as well as the Hebrews who were engaged in homosexual sex. Same-sex sex was integral to Roman sexuality. If you want a walk-through of both the New and Old Testaments, to learn the real truth, I will be glad to do it for you.

New Testament + Homosexuality [link]
Old Testament + Homosexuality [link]
SODOM DESTROYED ON 6-29-3129BC [link]

For example: There is not a Biblical Archeologist who will tell you that Sodom and Gomorrah had anything to do with homosexuality. Even the Jewish faith says it had nothing to do with homosexuality, and it was not until later translations that Catholics interpreted Lot's "Send them out so that we might Know them," as "send them out so we can have sex with them." There is nothing in the story to even suggest it. While the Hebrew word for KNOW appears over 900 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, only approximately 1% (13-14 times) of those references is it clearly used as a euphemism for realizing sexual intimacy. Instead, the demand to KNOW, should be interpreted as demanding the right to interrogate the strangers. The sins of Sodom & Gomorrah were many, but mostly based in INHOSPITALITY & GENERAL WICKEDNESS. In the Hebrew bible of the time, inhospitality was a grave crime. It is just another of the many examples of bigoted hatred in the bible. Yet many Christian Bibles do not even use the correct phrase for Lot's story, instead using the word homosexual. There is not even a word for homosexual in ancient Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew. LIES, LIES, LIES. Some translator lied and put in your copy of the Bible, so it must be true?

Before Christianity and Islam, homosexuality was accepted and even revered in cultures all over the planet. The Native Americans are an example, referring to homosexuals as Two-spirits who were felt to straddle both the male and female energies. They often help positions as
Shaman or Medicine man. In fact, the greatest atrocities agains both mankind and homosexuals were perpetrated by Christians and Muslims. It is NOT the underlying faith that does it, but the interpretation by men and their greed and hatred, all done in the name of a God.

First of all, as Barry Goldwater told you people, you stole the term CONSERVATIVE from the very founder of the movement. The movement was specifically for Financial and Military matters only. Then it was hijacked by BIGOTS who call themselves Christians (but who practice something very different) and a bunch of other social issues, like hatred of homosexuals, spreading nothing but lies. Republicans are masters of deception and lies, repeating outright lies again and again until stupid people believe them. Then end justifies the means has to be your motto.

You can go to Christian and conservative Web sites that list facts about homosexuals, all lies. Studies are listed. i have researched each one. All lies, all fabricated. They give facts about homosexual promiscuity, all lies. they cited a study from San francisco proving that Gay male relationships never last more than a few years, and the study was not even on that. There was no truth on the entire site. This is what homosexuals face from the Conservative movement. You make war on innocent people, not caring about the damage you do.

I am 55 years old and have been in the gay community from the age of 22. Seldom have I seen Bisexual men discriminated against. It is true that in the late 70s that some gay men treating bisexual men as men simply too cowardly to admit they were Gay, but that behavior was based in ignorance, as most bigotry is, and it is long, long past. The GLBTQ community has bigots to, certainly nothing to be proud of, but it does not represent the greater majority. Some GLBTQ youth start out bigoted based on the abuse they receive, but it is something most grow out of as they gain more experience in the world.

In my personal experience, American Conservatives are very poor excuses for human beings, often claiming to be Christian, but living the opposite way. They talk and vote out of Greed and self-interest alone. They do not care about people starving, or kids living on the streets. All they care about is money, their own money, and how to force other people to live the way they want them to. The Republican party is a party of Greed and self-interest and they are about as anti-Christ as this Country will find. They wish to control how people should live their lives, forcing prayer in schools, subjugating homosexuals, forcing people to live by their own ridiculous code. Conservatives love to send boys to die, but they do not tend to go themselves.


Your entire premise is bigoted. The genes are not bad, they are part of the human genome for a reason. There are around 10% of the world's population who are Gay or Lesbian, and an estimated addition 15 percent who are bisexual or secondarily bisexual. This is not a genetic accident, it is a very big chunk of the human population. It may not look that way now because so much pressure is brought to bear on young people to get into a straight relationship, and if there is enough "straight" in them to make it possible, they often go for it. It usually ends in divorce eventually. We are seeing larger numbers of men and women in their 50s and 60's divorcing and coming-out, and some staying married, but coming-out as GLBT.

NO THERE IS NOTHING GENETICALLY WRONG WITH BEING HOMOSEXUAL. In reality, there are almost no 100% heterosexuals, or homosexuals. All humans exist on a spectrum between 100% Heterosexual and 100% homosexual, with the majority being biased towards heterosexual. Every human being is distributed across a BELL CURVE of the human sexuality spectrum.

There are no actual defined lines, but sexual researchers try to break it into groups. This is the Klein Model terminology:
1 = Heterosexual only
2 = Heterosexual mostly
3 = Heterosexual somewhat more
4 = Hetero/Gay-Lesbian equally
5 = Gay/Lesbian somewhat more
6 = Gay/Lesbian mostly
7 = Gay/Lesbian only

1 = Other sex only
2 = Other sex mostly
3 = Other sex somewhat more
4 = Both sexes
5 = Same sex somewhat more
6 = Same sex mostly
7 = Same sex only

There is nothing at all bad or wring with being gay. Other than the having to grow up and deal with the hatred of people like you, and discrimination from people like you, we can lead a very productive and happy life. I was able to retire for life at age 34, starting with nothing, putting myself through college. I have a partner of almost 21 years and a home and two cats. My partner and I were Foster Parents for a while to a 7 year old boy and an 11 year old girl. We had arranged to get a baby. We would take care of her prenatal care and put the girl through beauty school. Her boyfriend found out, forced her into a car, drove her to the abortion clinic, and told her that no kid of his was being raised by faggots, and said he would be waiting for her. She was totally intimidated, went in, had it done, came out, and he was gone, left the State actually.

I grew up with the saying, "Better dead than Queer," perpetrated by people like you. But we constantly prove you wrong. We can lead wonderful lives, ideally far away from people like you, but often in your midst. I and my last partner moved into a Conservative area and the neighbors were aghast, with my next door neighbor telling another neighbor, "Oh my God, have heard, two Queers are moving in next to me?" But once we moved in, we started inviting people over for diner. I went and helped neighbors put up fences and put in irrigation systems and helped with projects (I am also a certified Electrician and Plumber). We did have a family across from us who would shout "FUCKING FAGGOTS," so i would shout back, "EVERY CHANCE WE GET." They put their house on the market and moved within 4 months. Their wan not a single family in our development that we did not get along great with. One mother sent her son to apologize to us for using the fag word. We ended up helping the boy and his friends build a tree house. We proved that you can turn around conservative bigots by showing them that we are very normal people, like them in almost all ways except one.


Where is this Bi friend of yours hanging out and what are his sexual practices? He seems rather unsavory if he is doing all of those things you listed.

You speak in LIES once again. The same lies you spread all over he internet. In this current day, the statistics show that so called one-night-stands are about equal between straight people and homosexuals.

Closeted Gays and Bisexuals, who are like your friend, may be another story, since so many of them marry women, then go out for indiscriminate and often anonymous sex with each other in public places. The reason they do that is because they are too scared to go to gay events or go to gay places, because they might be recognized. The only place they can go for sex is are parks and public restrooms. An awful lot of them are conservatives... Normal Gay people do not need to do that. If they want to get picked up, they can go to the appropriate Gay bar.

There is now more unsafe sex in heterosexual youth than in Gay youth.

You say that homosexuals have shallow materialistic natures? Good grief, look at yourself in the mirror. If anything, most of the gay men and women I know look just like everyone else. We are lawyers, judges, engineers, scientists, construction workers, doctors, dentists, you name it and we are there. I was a Merchant Seaman, a Chief engineer for Exxon. Gay people do more volunteer hours than straight people do. YOU are the Materialistic Greedy Selfish people, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS are that by definition.

Ok, granted your sex life, if you have one, is probably quite boring. You use only the missionary position right? What bizarre sex do you think I engage in? It is the same sex that very many straight people do. Anal sex in heterosexual sex is quite popular. Oral sex is common to almost all straight couples, unless you have a nasty penis that she won't touch. That is basically what gay sex is, and a lot of couples do not even do anal sex.

Long-term relationships are also very common in the gay community of today. Gay kids in school want to stay celibate until they meet someone special. I work with young GLBTQ people every day. The Gay community is very much relationship oriented. Most guys are looking for one, in one, or had a breakup, just like with most straight people, EXCEPT that more and more heterosexual couples, more than ever before, are opting out of marriage. This has been on TV news and in Newsweek magazine.

Now, about HIV. Since you are so ignorant on this, I will educate you. If you look at the history of HIV infection rates, seen on this chart from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) [link] you will see the drastic reduction in HIV infection rates. This is especially significant since the numbers of surviving people with HIV is much higher. Therefore, while the opportunity for infection has increased greatly, with more people around who have it, the actual number of new cases has decreased drastically. The rate of HIV transmission with sexual intercourse is much lower than with other sexually transmitted diseases-approximately 0.3% per sexual contact with an HIV-infected person.

Among gay men in the United States, one survey found that 35% had used two condoms at the same time, a practice called "double bagging".Wolitski, RJ; Halkitis, PN; Parsons, JT; Gómez, CA (August 2001). "Awareness and use of untested barrier methods by HIV-seropositive gay and bisexual men". AIDS Educ Prev 13 (4): 291–301. While heterosexual condom use is reported to be around 28% in adults, and 38% reported by ALL teens, gay and straight.

When you look at STD infection rates, Heterosexuals are about even with Homosexuals, which means that CONDOM USE IS ABOUT THE SAME FOR BOTH GATS & STRAIGHTS. So why are HIV rates higher in Gays? It should first be noted that HIV rates in the heterosexual community are rising, based on the latest numbers. The biggest HIV infection vector is anal sex, due to the high concentration of T-cells there. The odds are highest for transmission that way. Since Homosexuals practice more anal sex than do heterosexuals, HIV transmission rates will be higher. HOWEVER, as seen in Africa, HIV rates for heterosexuals is actually much, much higher than for homosexuals, so this can still change in the US, if the condom use of Heterosexuals keep dropping.

As for Drug use and alcoholism, it is true there is an elevated rate, although not that much. However, the reason cited for this is the abuse and hatred GLBTQ kids are subjected to. In other words, IT YOR FAULT THAT THERE IS A HIGHER ALCOHOL & DRUG USE IN THE GAY COMMUNITY.

You kill kids and drive them to use drugs and drink, all because of YOUR irrational HATRED, LIES, ABUSE, & DISCRIMINATION AGAINST THEM.

Your list about homosexuals is all lies as any research can show you. The last Conservative web page I fact checked used a research paper from 1962 about the promiscuous lifestyles of gay men, using a sample of 50 gay men from San Francisco bath houses. They went to the one place they would be guaranteed to find that behavior, then used a tiny sample to judge ALL gay men. You people are disgusting.

You have zero science to back up any of your lies about homosexuals. If you are getting all of your information from your Bi friend, then it sound like he has some serious issues that need addressing.

Have you no conscious at all? You know these are lies, yet you say them again and again. Have you no compassion for other human beings?

You are directly responsible for killing a lot of GLBTQ kids and adults. Their blood is on your soul, assuming you believe you have one. You can try to wash your hands of the blood all you want, but you will answer for your behavior.

If you want to try to back up your lies with provable facts, go for it. I have been debunking the lies of you people for two decades now. I can show them to be the lies they are and you to be the liar that you are.

You are willing to spew lies, but you cannot substantiate a single one. The day will come when you will answer for all of the cruelty and hatred you have put on so many people. You know the truth, yet you perpetrate the lies.

And for God's sake, don't claim a man as your friend when you despise what he is. That is sick. Why you have him in your life I don't know, but it most assuredly is not friendship. If you hate what he is, you hate him. Try to be honest about one thing at least.

Every single reason you put forth as to why Gay people are deficient, substandard, not deserving to live or exist, are proven to be lies. Yet I bet you will still continue to spread those lies around, even when they are proved to be lies. What kind of man does that make you? It makes you a disgusting excuse for a human being.
zane1193 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
Hmmmm.When did I say ANYTHING about abortion? I DIDN'T!! When did I say that I,or my friend BELIEVED that Homosexuality IS GENETIC? We DON'T! IF it were however,it SHOULD BE PREVENTED by screening(not abortion,but PREVENTION)or,treatment.You have ASSUMED quite a bit concerning my treatment of my friend,ALL of it FALSE by the way. My BI friend DOESN'T go to Social Events saying ANY of the things you assumed he does. If you have a problem with Gay fetuses being aborted,then maybe LIBERALS shouldn't have fought so hard for abortion to be legal.Or are you only Pro-Choice for STRAIGHT fetuses? I DO NOT SUPPORT ABORTION,got it?

ROTFLMAO!!! JAMES O'KEEFE (ACORN,NPR SCANDALS) needs to do an expose on the Homosexual Agenda/Lifestyle next! America's eyes need to really be opened on this issue!! My friend worked in a GAY BAR in a small city where we attended College.I went there frequently enough,as MANY straight kids did.I could go into graphic detail on what I observed there,and the MANY disturbing things GAY MEN would say to me sexually.They assumed my friend and I were a couple.Most of them in the area attempt to "turn" College Boys onto the "lifestyle", with the promise of CASH,or DRUGS.Sadly,the "DEATHSTYLE" I described IS the NORM,you just refuse to admit it.

You have got one VERY LARGE CHIP on your shoulder.Also,your attempts to book me on a "GUILT TRIP" concerning LGBT issues failed miserably.Nor have I bought into the HOGWASH of causing ANYONE'S death! I realized you are used to speaking to naive and impressionable TEENAGERS and COLLEGE STUDENTS,they can be convinced of ANYTHING quite easily!
MuffinStealer Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have absolutely no idea where you are finding this sort of 'lifestyle', your area must be terribly awful.

You cannot look at one single thing or talk to one single person before drawing a conclusion. It is very ignorant. I am a part of the gay community, and I can definitely tell you that that disgusting bar you were talking about is definitely not the norm. That is just for that certain group with that certain area. That sort of bar is more common with heterosexuals, if you actually take the time to think of it, instead of making ignorant assumptions.

There are always the 'filthy sluts' of every culture/race, but they are usually the minority. I can assure you, that most homosexuals just want to be in a regular, loving relationship. Many of them don't even like sex or sexual acts. It all depends on the person.
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
If you decide to intercede to eradicate all black babies, this is called genocide. If you intercede to eradicate all homosexual babies, this is genocide. You call for the eradication of an entire race. This makes you a monster, like all other genocidal hate mongers in human history. There is no difference. Better to not allow Conservative to have babies, thus stopping the vicious cycle of hate. You are a bigot through and through.

As for Gay bars, in any bar, gay or straight, especially ones geared towards a younger crowd, you get drug pushers, you get people trying to entice others into scenes and even prostitution. I have seen this behavior in the some of the many places that I had to go to socializes with my straight friends. You should see the things going on in College Station, Texas, home of Texas A&M, where I became a certified firefighter. College bars are especially susceptible to trolls, drug dealers and those looking to exploit youth. This common to some of both Straight and Gay establishments catering to college age youth.

You can cite examples of one place or there all you want, but it is not anywhere near enough for a conclusion. It is typical of conservatives to take things so far out of context, then build a case on it. As for people coming on to you sexually, obviously thins happens in Straight bars AKL the time. Ask any woman how many times she gets hit on by sloppy drunk and obnoxious or arrogant straight guys in one night. Straight bars are no less or more dens of inequity than gay bars. they re what they are. BEWARE any woman going to a straight bare, just as you would say to a gay man going to a Gay bar.

The reality is that in any Gay community in any city large enough for more than one bar or club, there are quiet neighborhood gay establishments , trendy one, some used by mostly drunks. You learn to go where you best fit-it. I spent years going to a gay and Lesbian dance bar. I DO NOT EVEN DRINK ALCOHOL AND NEVER HAVE. It was a nice place to meet people and dance. Some guy showed up trying to push drugs and we chased him off.

It is shear stupidity to judge an entire community based on little observation. Again, you speak a bunch of lies about a Lifestyle you know almost knotting about, apparently garnered from your one Bi Friend. It appears to me that you one Bi Friend is hanging out in all of the wring places, OR you are completely lying about him, because these experiences you keep mentioning are not consistent with the mainstream GLBTQ Community. I think you are lying about the entire thing.

Yes, of course you want no responsibility for how your rhetoric, your votes, your bigotry have driven people to their deaths. By into it or not, you will answer for all of it. It is called JUSTIFICATION. You do wrong, then look for bible verses or anything else you can find to justify your behavior and thoughts. Evil is evil, justified or not.

As for a Chip on a shoulder, I suppose all GLBTQ people have one to some degree, after a lifetime of discrimination and abuse from bigots like you.

GLBTQ people harm no one, yet you insist on attacking them and wanting to commit genocide against an entire race. You are surely the worst kind of human being possible.
zane1193 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2011
Riiight.Keep Drinking the KOOL-AID.
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Student Writer
Great answer. And you christians wonder why everyone considers you retarded
inspiredcreativity Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
GLBTQ People are a Race. Race refers to classifications of humans into relatively large and distinct populations or groups often based on factors such as appearance based on heritable phenotypical characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as culture, ethnicity and socio-economic status.

Race is not just determined by the color of your skin.

Again you are showing your ignorance. Perhaps a return to school, or at least doing some research on matters you are going to speak about, will make you look less ignorant. Bigotry is often based in ignorance.

Rabid homophobes like you go beyond ignorance. In a study done by the University of Georgia, it was found that homophobic men who identified themselves as Straight and to have only ever engaged in heterosexual sex, were the one who got erections watching Gay sex videos, in comparison to the non-homophobic straight men who did not get erections when watching Gay sex videos. They were all shown Straight sex videos, Lesbian Sex videos and Gay male sex videos, and erections were measured using a plethysmograph.

The reality is that the men claiming to be straight are actually either bisexual or gay, but with sever internalized homophobia. Having been raised in homophobic environments, as soon as you start to get those first attractions to the same gender, it is suppressed and you are horrified by it or fear it. You deny those feelings and transfer your hate of the feelings onto other GLBTQ people.

What this says it that there is a possibility, and I think a good one, that you are actually Gay or Bisexual yourself.

Another cause of rabid bigotry and homophobia is that some pathetic people cannot feel good about themselves unless they can feel SUPERIOR to some other group, so they put down that group and hate them, feel Oh so superior to them.
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roozard Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i'm really scared about the fetus things. it will be probably for lower cancer probabilty in the future, but if they use it for avoiding homosexuality.. -that's scary. o_o AND TERRIBLE.

i hope it won't come that far, i mean, i wouldn't want to choose how my kid will be. i dont want to choose if it's gay or not, has brown or blonde hair or likes the smell of roses or the smell of lilies better. science can destroy os much, natural selection shouldn't be changed by humen (if it's about cancer and other health things it's discussable but for such silly selections (gay or not) it's just crazy)

sometimes i can't understand humen.
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